News Article: Lebreton...Interesting...NCC - PART 2

[coladin]

Ottawa Senators studying options for new rink as talks on lease at LeBreton Flats continue

Will the Ottawa Senators stay at the Canadian Tire Centre or will they make a decision in 2024 that they're headed downtown?

ottawasun.com

“We’re going to do some work in the parking lots to try to get people in and out faster


Well the only way that is done, is to relocate the access roads, to the parking lots, to the out side perimeter of the lots, and eliminate the vehicle vs pedestrian conflict between the parking lot and the CTC that happens before and after every single game…….

The idiot(s) who designed the parking lots at the CTC that forces the vehicle vs pedestrian interaction should be sought out and jailed.

They used to have police at the intersection heading out of the main entrance to shuttle cars out better. The illegal parking across the street is killing egress, and it is unacceptable

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

The NCC over analyse……deliver well below expectations.

https://ncc-website-2.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/LeBreton-Flats-Master-Concept-Plan-1.pdf

 

[Crosside]

GARRIOCH: The Senators studying options downtown as negotiations with NCC continue

garrioch looking at options downtown

ottawasun.com

 

[Emerica]

GARRIOCH: The Senators studying options downtown as negotiations with NCC continue

garrioch looking at options downtown

ottawasun.com

Did they delete the article? For some reason it doesn’t open for me. On my phone btw

Edit: nvm, looks like it works now

 

[coladin]

I think it is good that Stucliffe makes the NCC believe they are not the only game in town

 

[Crosside]

Tobi Nussbaum says "there is flexibility" for a larger parcel of land at LeBreton Flats. Says discussions have been continuing and is confident the negotiations will lead to a lease. #Sens

 

[nsvoyageurs]

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

This Letters to the Editor writer in todays local paper, brings up a good point.

 

[Bileur]

This Letters to the Editor writer in todays local paper, brings up a good point.







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Concerts at Lansdowne can be heard from centre town to Alta vista.

As long as the land is still there I don’t see why we couldn’t still have festivals.

 

[Spotlight]

This Letters to the Editor writer in todays local paper, brings up a good point.







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This letter is idiotic, for the same reason that anyone in the glebe complaining about Lansdowne is idiotic.

The festivals have been there for years, if you buy or rent a place a the new towers buying built not knowing this or thinking that they are going to stop, you need to go get yourself examined in a societal way. The world doesn't revolve around you "person writing this letter"

If you don't want to hear the noice, don't buy or rent there, easy enough. Or if you still want to live there, then you can plan vacations and cottage times around when the festivals are happening.

I really hope they give the Sens a bigger piece of land so that Andlauer can build a true entertainment district around the arena, with commercial, retail, hotel, office and residential all included.

Lebreton should be filled with Ottawa's biggest towers, much taller than 20 stories with all sorts of other amenities in the planning. No where else in the world is there this much empty vacant land to develop right next to downtown. Don't "Ottawa" this opportunity and yes i'm using Ottawa as a verb meaning that if we "Ottawa" this opportunity and turn Lebreton into Cycling paths, and parks, and low rise residential only towers with no appeal or amenities or reason for anyone else to go there it'll be the biggest mistake this city has made.


rant over...

 

[starling]

Uh-oh. Looks like three huge towers that are planned in Lansdowne mean the end of RedBlacks.

 

[Emerica]

This Letters to the Editor writer in todays local paper, brings up a good point.







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Not a good point at all, this is dumb. If you willingly move downtown in any major city you should expect there to be events/noise disturbances.

How late do the bluesfest/jazz festivals shutdown usually? 10pm? Come on lol

 

[Sun God Nika]

I think if you are moving to lansdown right now a big selling point is how close you are to the action. If that stuff turns you off stay away.

I am planning on buying my first property once sens to lebreton is confirmed it’s litteraly my dream to watch a sens game in a 10 minute walk vs a 45 minute drive to the middle of nowhere

 

[Cosmix]

It is just unbelievable that it was a greenfield development and the parking lots chosen were pod and congestion design. And over the years lots I used to get there early for have been taken away from general parking so the options have gotten lousier. With the highway improvements heading east driving there is much better than when it opened but the parking lots remain ugly.

And the bus stops are located right beside the highway where an on-ramp for the buses could have been cheaply provided to get them out faster heading east than mixing them into regular traffic on the roads.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

GARRIOCH: Senators' VP Chris Phillips says club is studying upgrades to Canadian Tire Centre

The Senators will make upgrades to Canadian Tire Centre

ottawasun.com

hummmmm, no mention of hot water, for the “fan experience “….. so there will be no “we want the playoffs” chanting this season …. Perhaps chanting “we want hot water” might be the only this message gets sent?

 

[kilroy]

And the bus stops are located right beside the highway where an on-ramp for the buses could have been cheaply provided to get them out faster heading east than mixing them into regular traffic on the roads.

You need to look into how much pain the Senators went through to get the existing interchange built. It was, for over a decade, the only privately funded Highway interchange in the entire country. The province and city did everything they could to make the process to build it very difficult and expensive.

 

[Tuna99]

You need to look into how much pain the Senators went through to get the existing interchange built. It was, for over a decade, the only privately funded Highway interchange in the entire country. The province and city did everything they could to make the process to build it very difficult and expensive.

And the Sens built it with 1 exit and entry ramp and screwed the entire stadium experience for forever.

If it took you 30 minutes to get downtown like it should their attendance would be up 15% easily over the life of the building

 

[mysens]

Andlauer bought a home very close by to the downtown core a few weeks back

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

GARRIOCH: Senators keeping their options open on a downtown arena

Talks with the NCC are continuing, but until there's a deal there the team will keep other options in mind.

ottawasun.com

 

[kilroy]

And the Sens built it with 1 exit and entry ramp and screwed the entire stadium experience for forever.

If it took you 30 minutes to get downtown like it should their attendance would be up 15% easily over the life of the building

They didn't build it at all. Part of the painful process was the ridiculous design restrictions during the process. It was forced on the team with very little input possible. Essentially the organization was given the choice of taking the design and paying for it or getting no interchange at all. There's really no choice when it's presented that way.

In Ontario, the MTO does all the design work and construction contracting for all interchanges for 400 series highways. In this case, they just presented the Sens with the bill. Which has never happened before or since.

 

[mysens]

I know for a fact that anyone part of the group is not enthusiastic about leasing/renting land to build a billion-dollar facility. That's why Lebreton is not going anywhere. The only way it advances on that particular site is if the NCC will actually sell off the land entirely.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

I know for a fact that anyone part of the group is not enthusiastic about leasing/renting land to build a billion-dollar facility. That's why Lebreton is not going anywhere. The only way it advances on that particular site is if the NCC will actually sell off the land entirely.

Wonder if the City would be willing to Sell off the land at Bayview?

 

[Samboni]

My preference is to buy and knock down 2 blocks right downtown and build there. Rather than look for marginally suitable vacant land, they should create prime vacant land. IMO Lebreton and Bayview aren’t close enough to downtown for many people. Unfortunately there will be a vocal minority who will complain because it won’t be constructed in their preferred location.

 

[Golden_Jet]

My preference is to buy and knock down 2 blocks right downtown and build there. Rather than look for marginally suitable vacant land, they should create prime vacant land. IMO Lebreton and Bayview aren’t close enough to downtown for many people. Unfortunately there will be a vocal minority who will complain because it won’t be constructed in their preferred location.

Buying 2 blocks of prime downtown real estate, and demolishing it, would be really expensive, before even starting to build.

 

[JD1]

Buying 2 blocks of prime downtown real estate, and demolishing it, would be really expensive, before even starting to build.

I think taking out lesplanade Laurier is the prime location.