GDT: Leafs vs Wild 7:30 PM Sportsnet
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thewave
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I'm pretty sure he's trolling... I hope lol.
What's wrong with showing stats? It's good people get some humble pie-because around here Nylander and Marner are the reasons we shouldn't target Stamkos... They have been catapulted by fandom to McDavid levels and that's not the case. It's going to take time for these kids to perform and don't be shocked with non franchise players off the hop(if ever).
So, yes bud 3gp 7 SOG and he plays a bit shy in ways. I am sure he will get some points in time but don't expect a ppg, should never have expected that anyways.
GoonieFace
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Yep, Nylander, Kapanen and Hyman have a combined 0 pts in 3 NHL games. Its obvious the rebuild isnt working, time to start over.
Maplebeasts
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Out of all the kids, Hyman was the worst yesterday. Get having plays in the offensive zone die on his stick, and gave the puck away too much for my liking. The effort is there to be a good player, it's a matter of skill that will determine whether he ends up as a top nine guy or a bottom line energy guy.
Maplebeasts
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Yep, Nylander, Kapanen and Hyman have a combined 0 pts in 3 NHL games. Its obvious the rebuild isnt working, time to start over.
Don't even bother with that guy. The three games have been against two elite teams and a team noted for their strong defensive play in Minny. I'm sure when they play Ottawa the kids will generate more offense.
For the record, even McDavid had 1 point in his first 3 games. And then again nothing in his 4th.
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Yep, Nylander, Kapanen and Hyman have a combined 0 pts in 3 NHL games. Its obvious the rebuild isnt working, time to start over.
I don't think he is suggesting he is a bust. I think he sounds like he was expecting McDavid. Marner likely wont start a ppg either so people just need to get used to it.
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Haha oh I know it just makes me laugh though. The kids are ok they just play a bit kiddish still. They'll lose that quickly especially playing against teams in the PO hunt. It's most intense hockey they can be exposed to outside the PO.
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Yep, Nylander, Kapanen and Hyman have a combined 0 pts in 3 NHL games. Its obvious the rebuild isnt working, time to start over.
Don't be silly
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Hyman has looked like he could stick, but not as a top 6 forward.
Kapanen and Nylander have displayed some nice skills, and some good efforts on the defensive side, but they haven't finished anything yet. Kapanen has looked stronger on the puck.
Soshnikov looks like a top 9 forward, perhaps top 6, looks like he can be a 200' player, and seems intelligent all over the ice.
Huge age difference between them, 19 to 23 can be a physical transformation age.
As for not scoring ... name me a Leafs player who has over the 3 games? Very small list.
Kapanen and Nylander have displayed some nice skills, and some good efforts on the defensive side, but they haven't finished anything yet. Kapanen has looked stronger on the puck.
Soshnikov looks like a top 9 forward, perhaps top 6, looks like he can be a 200' player, and seems intelligent all over the ice.
Huge age difference between them, 19 to 23 can be a physical transformation age.
As for not scoring ... name me a Leafs player who has over the 3 games? Very small list.
showtime8
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I brought up the fact that the kids were struggling and looked awful in the 2nd period.
The things that they do at the AHL level don't work at the NHL level. The cute little pass out of the zone that they can get away with in the AHL, is turned over and cause them to be hemmed in their own end.
That's easy to fix though.
The thing that you can't teach is the natural instincts of Kapanen, who stops on a dime and creates plays with guys cutting to the net. And you're not going to teach the vision that Nylander has.
The problem that they are running into is that they are all trying to learn the NHL speed and what they can get away with at the same time and that's what causes the long defensive zone time and the short offensive zone times.
The things that they do at the AHL level don't work at the NHL level. The cute little pass out of the zone that they can get away with in the AHL, is turned over and cause them to be hemmed in their own end.
That's easy to fix though.
The thing that you can't teach is the natural instincts of Kapanen, who stops on a dime and creates plays with guys cutting to the net. And you're not going to teach the vision that Nylander has.
The problem that they are running into is that they are all trying to learn the NHL speed and what they can get away with at the same time and that's what causes the long defensive zone time and the short offensive zone times.
showtime8
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Soshnikov has looked really engaged with plays. He's also getting room on the ice because Komarov is heading into the corners and opening that space up for him. There's a couple of times that he was positioned in the high slot to take a pass from a guy like the Corporal after retrieving the puck and he either took the shot or was deflected away.
I think that he could be a top 6 guy for sure.
rrc1967
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And so it begins.............man if this kid can't turn the franchise around in 3 games maybe we picked the wrong guy.
I think he caught something from Lou.. Maybe that Parisian "Tanque" virus, or something..?
The only highlights I've seen from last night's game are the Sports highlights on the news, so I can't comment much on this game yet..., until I watch more..., except to say, that it appears we have kept our GA average down, since losing Dion.. and bringing up the Young Guns..
TheGroceryStick
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Realistically, when should Nylander be sent back down?
Looking at the schedule; I would like him to get atleast one road trip in.
See some rivals (Ott-X2, Buf, Det)
Looking at the schedule; I would like him to get atleast one road trip in.
See some rivals (Ott-X2, Buf, Det)
Nithoniniel
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Nylander is suffering from the same thing McDavid did in those first 4 games of his. Waiting for the game to come to him. Hopefully he'll figure it out.
This was one of those games where I'm really happy I don't care much if we win or lose.
This was one of those games where I'm really happy I don't care much if we win or lose.
The team has been shockingly competitive with this young lineup. And this is with many youthful mistakes of not filling shooting and passing lanes, turning over the puck in bad areas, taking longer shifts, etc. Add some enhanced discipline to these young legs and we may be surprised by the competitive level of next year's team if the team can get some reliable goaltending.
