Fogelhund
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Reaves shouldn’t be on the ice. He’s a net negative. We need toughness that can play the game and contribute playing hockey.
Reaves hasn’t done squat to be a deterrent anyway.
Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign F Tyler Bertuzzi (1 year, $5.5M)
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Reaves shouldn’t be on the ice. He’s a net negative. We need toughness that can play the game and contribute playing hockey.
Reaves hasn’t done squat to be a deterrent anyway.
Racer88
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Absolutely correct .. Tre signed him .. hopefully he starts to put out more as we get closer to playoffs .. never forget he wants to up a great show in playoffs for his next contract .. and someone else will say d*mn that guy has da ability .. it is da way he rolls
ULF_55
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I suppose if you're 7th. in P/PG or 1st. in goals or Top 10 in P/PG over the past 4 season then you're probably putting in some effort.
Bertuzzi just doesn't seem to have any finish, so you wonder how in the world did he ever score 30 and then you remember Clarkson.
It must have just been one of the fluke seasons some players have.
To misparaphrase Green, "Betuzzi isn't who we thought he was."
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This was the Tyler Bertuzzi the Leafs hoped they were getting .. 5 goals 5 assists 10 points in 7 games in a physical 1st round series via Florida.
Perhaps Bertuzzi best time to shine is still ahead of him?
Perhaps Bertuzzi best time to shine is still ahead of him?
This was the Tyler Bertuzzi the Leafs hoped they were getting .. 5 goals 5 assists 10 points in 7 games in a physical 1st round series via Florida.
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Yeah. I’m reserving complete judgement until the playoffs. That’s what we got him for
Gilmour1996
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He's getting big bucks for the regular season. If all Leafs did next to nothing in the regular season there would be no playoffs. Also think of the fans paying big bucks for their seats and seeing a player not doing much.
I agree. This is why I said complete judgement. I am not in any way absolving him or saying his regular season has been good enough. I think it’s fair to say though if he comes out in the playoffs and gives us something akin to 10 points in 7 games people will be happy he was there.
There is solid potential of Domi and Bertuzzi raising their level of play in the post season and we need more of that. The coaching staff in the meantime has about 30 games to figure out how to get more out of them in this lineup.
One noteworthy difference is that he got double the PP time in Boston that we are giving him. 1:14 per game is really even less quality of time than it seems like when you consider it’s often no more than like 15-20 second at the end of multiple PPs
I still maintain from the summer we should be running two units more evenly. we have more than 4 forwards on this team who need PP time to produce and feel good about their game.
Each unit gets:
Two of the core 4.
One of the rookies in Knies/Robertson
One of Bertuzzi/Domi
One of Rielly/Klingberg
* balance out your shooters, playmakers, and grit between the two.
Obviously Klingberg didn’t last, so this goes to Liljegren.
I forgot Jarnkrok. The point is there are options.
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I certainly hope Treliving wasn't relying on his unsustainably inflated 7-game production to continue, or thinking that his actual performance was something to be praised in that series, or we have much bigger problems.
I like Bertuzzi’s hustle and effort. He’s definitely been snake bitten offensively but someone I still wouldn’t mind re-signing for the right price. Maybe a long term deal at 3.5 million is something he wouldn’t be against.
Martin Skoula
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This was the Tyler Bertuzzi the Leafs hoped they were getting .. 5 goals 5 assists 10 points in 7 games in a physical 1st round series via Florida.
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-5 in game 5, 6, and 7 as his team had a total collapse to an underdog? It’s crazy that it took him this long to become a Leaf, he was born for this.
I see you're still a big advocate for plus/minusThis was the Tyler Bertuzzi the Leafs hoped they were getting .. 5 goals 5 assists 10 points in 7 games in a physical 1st round series via Florida.
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ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
How do get points in 6 of 7 playoff games for the Bruins and suck so bad in Blue and White for the majority of 49 games when you are playing for your next contract and just added another mouth to feed to your family?This was the Tyler Bertuzzi the Leafs hoped they were getting .. 5 goals 5 assists 10 points in 7 games in a physical 1st round series via Florida.
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Take a look on YouTube highlites of Boston goals vs florida in the playoffs last yr.
He was on the top PP unit
Tip tip tip in front of the net on clear shot
Bostons defenseman fuelled everything to the net we don't play that way .
They had 2 players at the net every time.
Our d can't even get the puck through.
BraveCanadian
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He was a gamble. It didn’t pay off. Can’t skate, can’t stay on his feet, can’t handle the puck.. can’t finish.
If he suddenly turns on the switch for the playoffs, like people continue to fantasize about for some unknown reason, I’ll be absolutely shocked.
If he suddenly turns on the switch for the playoffs, like people continue to fantasize about for some unknown reason, I’ll be absolutely shocked.
Bertuzzi has a NMC. Would he waive it?
Red Wings recieved a first round pick, 4th round pick, retained 50% of his salary.
Good news about Bertuzzi, he can be replaced for 1 million, and that extra 4.5 million can be added to the back end.
Red Wings recieved a first round pick, 4th round pick, retained 50% of his salary.
Good news about Bertuzzi, he can be replaced for 1 million, and that extra 4.5 million can be added to the back end.
hockeyes
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Probably one of the most frustrating players to watch, amazing at looking like he might do something, terrible at actually doing anything.
Jimmy Firecracker
Fire Sheldon.
If he could keep up with the pace and just looked out of place in the system, i'd hold out hope for a playoff turnaround. But like you said he looks like a massively declined player that can't handle a 5ft pass, can't even carry the puck without pressure, can't stay on his feet, etc.
Draws parallels to Clarkson in a lot of ways. I wouldn't sign him for longer than 2 years if I were another team this summer.
Namikaze Minato
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Why would you trade so many future assets for a couple months of salary relief in a season in which we are not competitive?
Thats one of the dumbest suggestions ive seen in a while.
MarMarSab3
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The most useless player I have witnessed as a leaf fan. And I've seen many many many of them
Should have resigned Hyman and not have to be diddling with other guys trying to find a Hyman. $5 mil. Needed to find a way to get that done. That was the mistake.
BlackAdam
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How Tyler Bertuzzi conned the Leafs to get a $5 million contract needs to be studied by the future generation.
Hoglund4MvP
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Seem like a mason marchment situation.
year 1 regular season with new team just doesn't click: "then hit a rough patch, probably mentally more than anything,” Marchment said. “I think it kind of dragged on me throughout the year. Towards the end of the season, I started finding my game a little more and kind of got back to playing the way I’m supposed to be playing.”
I would expect year 2 to go more like marchment year 2 in dallas. 16 goals and 41 points right now.
maybe the lack of points year 1 allow us to lock him up at 4 mil long term. He most likely goes back to 20 goal seasons next year. I dont see it realistic that this year is his usual moving forward
year 1 regular season with new team just doesn't click: "then hit a rough patch, probably mentally more than anything,” Marchment said. “I think it kind of dragged on me throughout the year. Towards the end of the season, I started finding my game a little more and kind of got back to playing the way I’m supposed to be playing.”
I would expect year 2 to go more like marchment year 2 in dallas. 16 goals and 41 points right now.
maybe the lack of points year 1 allow us to lock him up at 4 mil long term. He most likely goes back to 20 goal seasons next year. I dont see it realistic that this year is his usual moving forward
