Sportsnet: Leafs meeting with DeKeyser [Signs with DET]

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false bobo

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Holzer:

Pylon.jpg


DeKeyser:

RachelLewis-CCHAChampionshipGame-Michigan-WMU-03172012-4.jpg


Can you discern the difference?

Hint: one of them is a hockey player!

That was hilarious man. You're a funny guy.
 

Rob Brown

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Holzer:

Pylon.jpg


DeKeyser:

RachelLewis-CCHAChampionshipGame-Michigan-WMU-03172012-4.jpg


Can you discern the difference?

Hint: one of them is a hockey player!
I'm sure you've seen the kid play a ton! Either way, one bad game for DeKeyser and you'd just replace his picture with a pylon as well, before out looking for the next young guy to praise.
 

kesleaf

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That was hilarious man. You're a funny guy.

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^I hope you're kidding. Holzer ****ing sucks. He's been up here for a good part of the season and boy did he look out of place. He was nothing but a liability for us. Him and Kotska.
 

false bobo

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^I hope you're kidding. Holzer ****ing sucks. He's been up here for a good part of the season and boy did he look out of place. He was nothing but a liability for us. Him and Kotska.

You got me. I was kidding. You're not funny at all ;)

I'll let someone else explain to you why it it's quite predictable for a d-man prospect with less than 25 games of NHL experience to struggle in his first extended call-up.
 
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Rob Brown

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You got me. I was kidding. You're not funny at all ;)

I'll let someone else explain to you why it it's quite predictable for d-man prospect with less than 25 games of NHL experience to struggle in his first extended call-up.
Especially because he thinks that the kid with 0 NHL games experience will automatically be better, for whatever reason.
 

TootooTrain

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He's going to get an equal ELC contract from every team, so the pushing point will be perks. IE, chance to play in the NHL among other things. So whoever gets this guy will probably have him in their starting lineup....not something I'd be particularly thrilled about to be honest.
 

29Potvins

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^I hope you're kidding. Holzer ****ing sucks. He's been up here for a good part of the season and boy did he look out of place. He was nothing but a liability for us. Him and Kotska.

Wow. Last year everybody was touting Holzer as NHL ready and that he would be a steady defenseman. One year later and Holzer is a pylon? At 25 years old?

Icing on the cake is that you are just as quick to praise DeKeyser despite the fact that he has not played a single NHL game. :help:
 

kesleaf

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Wow. Last year everybody was touting Holzer as NHL ready and that he would be a steady defenseman. One year later and Holzer is a pylon? At 25 years old?

Icing on the cake is that you are just as quick to praise DeKeyser despite the fact that he has not played a single NHL game. :help:

Well, after seeing the way Holzer played, I would have imagined that most of us wouldn't hesitate to equate the guy to a pylon. He was nothing buy a liability. Some players aren't made for the NHL, simple as that.

You take a guy like Gardiner. Even though he was a rookie last year, he showed signs of brilliance, and things that we can look forward to. You simply don't play half a season in the NHL and be a ****** player in every single game.

That is why I think Holzer = pylon. And anything that looks like a hockey player, is wearing hockey equipment, should in theory be better than said pylon.
 

LV*

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He's going to Detroit or Edmonton IMO

Imagine a future pairing of Rielly/Gardiner - DeKeyser
 

Cor

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I think we could get him. If they lay out a plan that sees him start in the AHL just to get used to our system, and then brought up. Along with laying out how big of a piece he will be to our D core in the future with Rielly, Gardiner, Franson and Phaneuf.

I think we could snag him. However my money is on Detroit
 

TMLife*

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He's going to Detroit, no one get excited here

And it's not like he's Justin Schultz, he might turn out to be a #4 dman if everything goes well for him. This is not a top pairing guy.
 

JMcLeaf

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Our defensive depth, including our prospects, will likely scare him off. If he's basing his decision on opportunity to play, then Edmonton would make the most sense.

Haven't really been following the situation, but anytime I check in it seems like everyone says Detroit will get him.
 

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Well, after seeing the way Holzer played, I would have imagined that most of us wouldn't hesitate to equate the guy to a pylon. He was nothing buy a liability. Some players aren't made for the NHL, simple as that.

You take a guy like Gardiner. Even though he was a rookie last year, he showed signs of brilliance, and things that we can look forward to. You simply don't play half a season in the NHL and be a ****** player in every single game.

That is why I think Holzer = pylon. And anything that looks like a hockey player, is wearing hockey equipment, should in theory be better than said pylon.

You must have been really upset and confused when the Leafs signed Holzer to his 2-year extension the other week, eh?
 

DD03

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I highly doubt we convince him we have room in our defense for him to play. Specially after the way we handled Komisarek.
 

Pierre Gotye

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Hey guys, I have a solution to all the Leafs problems:

Let's add more defenseman.

We addressed the situation in 2010
We addressed the situation in 2011
We addressed the situation in 2012
We addressed the situation in 2013
We addressed the situation in 2014
We addressed the situation in 2015
We addressed the situation in 2016...:shakehead
 

Parkdale

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Even if the Leafs don't get him, it still refreshing to see that they are at least in the college FA mix. I think this is the first such FA that the Leafs have been even linked to (in rumors) this year when many other teams have already made signing announcements.
 

Guy Boucher

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I highly doubt we convince him we have room in our defense for him to play. Specially after the way we handled Komisarek.

Yea we only gave him three years to prove himself. Everyone knows that a player won't be able to play his best until he's afforded at least four complete years of no consequence screwing up.
 

false bobo

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Hey guys, I have a solution to all the Leafs problems:

Let's add more defenseman.

We addressed the situation in 2010
We addressed the situation in 2011
We addressed the situation in 2012
We addressed the situation in 2013
We addressed the situation in 2014
We addressed the situation in 2015
We addressed the situation in 2016...:shakehead

You'd turn down a free prospect in DeKeyser?
 

mikeo1

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Hey guys, I have a solution to all the Leafs problems:

Let's add more defenseman.

We addressed the situation in 2010
We addressed the situation in 2011
We addressed the situation in 2012
We addressed the situation in 2013
We addressed the situation in 2014
We addressed the situation in 2015
We addressed the situation in 2016...:shakehead

I missed the part where someone claimed DeKeyser was the solution to all our problems.

Or do you suggest that we just stop signing defencemen?
 

DD03

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Yea we only gave him three years to prove himself. Everyone knows that a player won't be able to play his best until he's afforded at least four complete years of no consequence screwing up.

I for one, thought he had played solid every time he was in the line-up this year.
 

Leaf Rocket

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I for one, thought he had played solid every time he was in the line-up this year.

People are definitely throwing him under the bus. I know I did but I also admit he was being over utilized and put in a slot he's not best suited. Let's be realistic for a moment. Korbinian Holzer is not a top pairing man, neither is he a top 4 guy. He's that excellent bottom pairing reliable shut down man who can log minutes in the PK and step in to be that 4th possible defensemen when injuries are hitting your team hard.
 

67Cup

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Hey guys, I have a solution to all the Leafs problems:

Let's add more defenseman.

We addressed the situation in 2010
We addressed the situation in 2011
We addressed the situation in 2012
We addressed the situation in 2013
We addressed the situation in 2014
We addressed the situation in 2015
We addressed the situation in 2016...:shakehead

Yes, in fact a team should take defensemen every year, likewise forwards and goalies regularly. A good team takes every opportunity to keep the system well stocked.
 

DD03

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People are definitely throwing him under the bus. I know I did but I also admit he was being over utilized and put in a slot he's not best suited. Let's be realistic for a moment. Korbinian Holzer is not a top pairing man, neither is he a top 4 guy. He's that excellent bottom pairing reliable shut down man who can log minutes in the PK and step in to be that 4th possible defensemen when injuries are hitting your team hard.

We were talking about Komisarek there LR.
 
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