WTFMAN99
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Was a weird/meh pick at the time but looking back, I don't see any obvious players taken after him that I'd have rather had in his place.
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Was a weird/meh pick at the time but looking back, I don't see any obvious players taken after him that I'd have rather had in his place.
Menzinger
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I think if he gets 18-22 minutes a night against men it's more beneficial then beating up on kids in the OHL plus the benefit of being in the comfort of home at age 18.
I think the following year he can make our NHL squad or can spend like half a year in the AHL.
^^^ See above
From the players POV he'd also make far more money playing in the SHL than the peanuts he'd be given in the CHL. Don't really see any incentive for him to play in a lesser quality league for less money.
Playing against men > Playing against kids. I dont think the leafs are going to alter a prospects development because of how close they are/arent to toronto. Good chance that playing in the OHL would instill bad habits and is obviously a massive step down from junior hockey.
I don't believe that is the case either. Junior camps open in mid August typically and taking the McNiven signing as an example, he wasn't signed till the end of September. Going back a couple more years Mitchell Heard should be a name people remember, he impressed at rookie camp, came to training camp, but didn't get a contract and went back to the OHL, then the Avs drafted him in the second round the next year.
I think you're right that the opening of junior camps is the deadline for players not on a training camp roster, but as long as they are attending a teams training camp they can be signed up until they are cut from the camp.
He's from Minnesota. I mean its quite possible that the leafs were still interested but he opted to try and make it on his hometown team
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Stephen Desrocher is already gone from 2015 and Nikita Korostelev is hanging by a thread as the deadline passed to sign him and he currently a UFA and hanging around as he has no better place to be.
he will be 21 in july so yes we drafted him in 2016 but he should of been drafted 2014. They took a risk he didn't improve in the WHL they cut him lose, we have more than enough sub 6' wingers to last us a lifetime.
Yep.. With the draft picks from this year, we have a whole line full of tall ones, now.. (Boby might be the only one who's not a D-man..?)
(Boby might be the only one who's not a D-man..?)
Korshkov and Chebykin are tall ones (forwards)
Opps.. Thanks, Walshy..
But, I'm referring to the 6'6' and up ones..
(and I'm not biased, because I believe that good players come in all sizes..,
although smaller ones sometimes have to work harder, to achieve some of the same results..)
but Bobylev is only 6'2" (according to DB? greenway is 6'4" so if they are similar height maybe bobylev grew to 6'4". I don't think we actually have any forwards 6'6" (maybe the goat?)
Probably right..
I think Fehr is the tallest (if he stays), at 6'4"... with JVR & Martin at 6'3''..
Better players than him have played their draft+1 year in CHL, lol He didn't look to dominate playing against 17-year-olds in April either. go easy on the hype. He started the year in J20 and finished in Allsvenskan.
Liljegren is too god for the CHL. That would be a joke.
He needs real competition like Nylander did against men in the AHL.
is it a joke and a waste of a season for Cal Foote, Juuso Vallimaki, Cale Makar to not be playing against men next season or is Liljegren so much better than those 3?
Canada4Gold
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To keep a players rights after each year you need to give them a ELC contract offer of some sort(often minimum offer I'd imagine). Given the Leafs contract situation and Walkers less than steller year they probably were too afraid he'd accept it and offering one wasn't worth the risk when the reward wasn't all that great and the chance they want to give him an ELC next year likely isn't very high either.
I heard he went to some other teams camp, and I don't believe a player can do that when another team holds his rights so they likely didn't give him an offer and thus losing his rights.
Which is fine. The pick was made hoping he'd develop and earn an ELC. He didn't but it's only a 6th round pick and you're going to miss on most of those.
Maker will be playing college hockey and Foote isn't fast enough to keep up in the pros at this point.
Liljegren is an elite skater who was rated as a top 3 prospect for 12 of the last 16 months so yes I had him rated higher than those 3.
acrobaticgoalie
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I am not liking Scott's game so far after seeing the highlights of both scrimmages. I realize he hasn't really been playing for a few months but he doesn't look very confident. He has a lot of shots squeaking through the body and he keeps looking back. He looks like he is guessing on shots and not playing his rebounds well. On some of the goals it looks like he guesses, overcommits and is watching the puck go by him. Very poor body language.
Robson looked decent
Robson looked decent
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There's no downside to playing Liljegren with the Marlies. ELCs for 18 and 19 year olds slide if they do not play 10 NHL games.
James Mirtle Verified account @mirtle 2h2 hours ago
Leafs don't announce the financial terms. But I'm guessing Liljegren didn't get many entry level bonuses. Certainly not like Matthews.
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There's no downside to playing Liljegren with the Marlies. ELCs for 18 and 19 year olds slide if they do not play 10 NHL games.
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Are the expectations on Rosen and Bergman high that 1 if not both make the Leafs next year? dont know much about them. Can Lijegren?
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One might make it. I bet not.
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Could you see Liljegren on the Marlies this year?
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There's no downside to playing Liljegren with the Marlies. ELCs for 18 and 19 year olds slide if they do not play 10 NHL games.
James Mirtle Verified account @mirtle 2h2 hours ago
Leafs don't announce the financial terms. But I'm guessing Liljegren didn't get many entry level bonuses. Certainly not like Matthews.
James Mirtle Verified account @mirtle
There's no downside to playing Liljegren with the Marlies. ELCs for 18 and 19 year olds slide if they do not play 10 NHL games.
Frankie @CoachFrank18
Are the expectations on Rosen and Bergman high that 1 if not both make the Leafs next year? dont know much about them. Can Lijegren?
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One might make it. I bet not.
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Could you see Liljegren on the Marlies this year?
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Not a big fan of the Scott pick. Our goalie pipeline is hot garbage outside of Woll, and has been for years.
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He had no say.
As long as the Leafs gave a Bonafide Offer they retained his rights. It doesn't matter if he accepted the offer or not, as long as it was tendered. The fact that he is a FA means a BO was not tendered, and the Leafs let him go.
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Good thing we only need 1 huh grumpy? inb4 "ZOMG NEVER 2 MUCH DEPTH". No pressure at all for us to draft and develop a 1g. If woll becomes one by the time we need it in 5-7 years, then great. If not, pay the 1st and get an average one, thats all you need.
Menzinger
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Not into Scott either, though Sparks may yet be able to become a decent backup at the NHL level.
I'd expect the Leafs to take a goalie next draft too
