TSN: Leafs are highly motivated to deal

[The Examiner]

we were bottom 5 last year with phaneuf in the lineup. Second last 2 years ago...

This makes no sense at all.

 

[Leafidelity]

Is your memory that short? Beauchemin.

That's right, and the management felt they needed to find a better defenseman the next season after he did.

 

[Hurt]

we were bottom 5 last year with phaneuf in the lineup. Second last 2 years ago...

The same can be said about Joffrey Lupul. Phil Kessel. Grabovski. Kulemin.

This post made no sense.

 

[ShLou Foot]

Stats don't tell the whole story, but they tell a heck of a lot more than the "I watch the games" argument.

What do you see in this?

Either ends of the colour spectrum, a vase/maybe a goblet and 2 people about to kiss (Tlusty and Wellwood). Is that all Professor Rorschach?

 

[Northernguy10]

I think Nonis really tries to get Clarkson but the quoted part from Dreger/TSN is just what every Leafs GM says. Burke said the same thing when he was hired. He's not going to rebuild/draft, he's building from the goalie out, he's not waiting 5 yrs to build, nada nada, blah,blah....

Then he made some of the most stupid trades.

Hopefully, the Leafs have learned their lesson about judging talent and don't gut their few good prospects/pieces (I think it's safe to say Gardiner can be included in that bunch).

Letang shouldn't cost as much as some are saying because Pittsburgh is getting squeezed out because of cap reasons. But, he's more of a luxury item than a need. He might help on the PP and he's a PMD but he's an upgrade on the type of dman Gardiner is.

I think Phaneuf is expendable because he won't want any less than he gets now (6.5 mill.) and he's not worth that, imho.

Some interesting UFA and cap issues might give Nonis some options but for the sake of Leaf fans, they better hope he's smart about it. I think the Leafs are still missing some major pieces of the puzzle before they're real contenders.

Bang on. Well thought out post. I hope Nonis sticks with his young-for-young trade style and keeps on drafting and developing. I don't see us anywhere near being a perennial contender and that takes time. Abandoning the game plan now and believing we are close sends us back to the past decades of trading youth and picks for aging veterans past their primes.We finally have it going in the right direction. Let's not change course now.

 

[egd27]

Either ends of the colour spectrum, a vase/maybe a goblet and 2 people about to kiss (Tlusty and Wellwood). Is that all Professor Rorschach?

Correct Your eyes see different things depending on how you choose to view it.

That is all.

 

[Brew]

So your eyes see different things depending on how you choose to view it.

That is all.

Hang on, before you go thinking you've come up with some smartass response, if he were to recognize only one item, you would argue that he is narrow-minded, but because he can point out more than one aspect to the picture, you say he changes his mind easily?


You make no sense when posting that picture. You have actually proven absolutely nothing.

 

[Northernguy10]

Very confused about the Letang stuff. It seemed that during the playoffs he was the whipping boy for the Pens poor performances on defense, and now we're supposed to pay the guy $7M-$8M for the next 6-8 years AND give up young, controllable - and most importantly - good assets to do so? Count me out.

I agree.

 

[egd27]

Hang on, before you go thinking you've come up with some smartass response, if he were to recognize only one item, you would argue that he is narrow-minded, but because he can point out more than one aspect to the picture, you say he changes his mind easily?


You make no sense when posting that picture. You have actually proven absolutely nothing.

Do you understand the context?

I wasn't directing my response to that poster specifically, nor was my intention to insult him. It was a general response about viewing something.

The OP I put the picture in was discussing stats vs watching the games. The picture is an example of how things can appear differently depending on how one chooses to look at them.

It proves what I intended it to prove.
Bias and perception can affect how something is viewed,

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Somebody on here says that TSN said something huge is brewing between SJ and you guys. Did anybody else hear this? I don't believe it's true.

 

[Warden of the North]

Somebody on here says that TSN said something huge is brewing between SJ and you guys. Did anybody else hear this? I don't believe it's true.

We got trolled. Its bogus

 

[Badger Mayhew*]

We got trolled. Its bogus

Somebody on another forum said they heard the same thing about SJ/Leafs on TSN.

 

[JMcLeaf]

Somebody on another forum said they heard the same thing about SJ/Leafs on TSN.

Probably same guy, or someone who saw the post here on hf. If it was actually said, way more people would have heard it.

 

[beer123]

Probably same guy, or someone who saw the post here on hf. If it was actually said, way more people would have heard it.

Someone on Neogaf.com mentioned they heard it on TSN too.

 

[BayStBullies]

Correct Your eyes see different things depending on how you choose to view it.

That is all.

Swing and a miss. His response proved that he analyzed the problem from all perspectives.

 

[I Am The Stig]

Someone on Neogaf.com mentioned they heard it on TSN too.

Haha, are you a gaffer too?

 

[Wendel17]

only on toronto hf boards does mentality such as this exists. ya forget the norris candidate...let's go with gunnarsson and frasor and costco again.

Letang would be an amazing pickup. I would just hate to deal Gardiner to get him though.

If we deal Gardiner I would rather it be as part of a package for Mackinnon.

 

[7even]

Either ends of the colour spectrum, a vase/maybe a goblet and 2 people about to kiss (Tlusty and Wellwood). Is that all Professor Rorschach?

Two ends of the colour spectrum are red and violet

 

[Warden of the North]

Probably same guy, or someone who saw the post here on hf. If it was actually said, way more people would have heard it.

Exactly.

Hfboards is the largest hockey board in existence.

I went and watched the relevant clips from tonights SportsCentre, including Insider Trading, and there was zero mention of this.

If there was something major going on, we'd be hearing about it from everyone on Twitter. Even Rishaug's twitter account has nothing about it, and hes the guy who supposedly said it.

 

[egd27]

Swing and a miss. His response proved that he analyzed the problem from all perspectives.

Yes, and depending on how he chose to view it, he saw it in different ways.

It wasn't a trick question lol.

 

[BigPuma]

hey first post here just thinking with all the posturing nonis is doing was wondering if it all adds up to an offer sheet? I'm thinking Adam Henriuque at between $3,364,392 to $5,046,585, the compansation being a first and third next year. I mean he's your 23 yr old center with big upside, if we could snag him and Clarkson then maybe someone on D I think were ok. No?

 

[HEAVY DUTY]

hey first post here just thinking with all the posturing nonis is doing was wondering if it all adds up to an offer sheet? I'm thinking Adam Henriuque at between $3,364,392 to $5,046,585, the compansation being a first and third next year.

i doubt nonis offersheets anyone. he hated it when philly offer sheeted kesler when he was the GM of the canucks.

so no to henrique unless its a trade.

 

[BigPuma]

i doubt nonis offersheets anyone. he hated it when philly offer sheeted kesler when he was the GM of the canucks.

so no to henrique unless its a trade.

All Nonis has been saying is, hey I'm going to do what ever it takes to make this team better, and in my opinion this does. What does everyone else think value wise? And if its a trade would this years first and Colborne get it done ?
I'm guessing not.

 

[jughead42*]

Either ends of the colour spectrum, a vase/maybe a goblet and 2 people about to kiss (Tlusty and Wellwood). Is that all Professor Rorschach?

You owe me a new laptop dude. Spit out my Tim Hortons when I read this and have a sticky keyboard now. Think before you post something like that and be ready to accept the consequences next time. Great post, although I'm a mark for anything that rips on Tlusty 23 goals be damned. We don't need goals that badly.

I would seriously give my left nut to get Henrique, although I agree a trade is far more likely than an offer sheet. I'd do the rights to Kadri straight up for the rights to Henrique. We have guys like Kadri all over the roster, little inconsistent guys who can skate and are prone to the occasional spat of brilliance. We don't have anybody like Henrique, all he does is all the things you need your center ice men to do and then score in the most important games. He did it with Windsor as a junior and he's done it in the NHL with Jersey during their (almost) cup run. Do it!!!!

 

[Diatomic]

You owe me a new laptop dude. Spit out my Tim Hortons when I read this and have a sticky keyboard now. Think before you post something like that and be ready to accept the consequences next time. Great post, although I'm a mark for anything that rips on Tlusty 23 goals be damned. We don't need goals that badly.

I would seriously give my left nut to get Henrique, although I agree a trade is far more likely than an offer sheet. I'd do the rights to Kadri straight up for the rights to Henrique. We have guys like Kadri all over the roster, little inconsistent guys who can skate and are prone to the occasional spat of brilliance. We don't have anybody like Henrique, all he does is all the things you need your center ice men to do and then score in the most important games. He did it with Windsor as a junior and he's done it in the NHL with Jersey during their (almost) cup run. Do it!!!!

Ok you hate Kadri what else is new?