Sportsnet: Leafs and Nylander closing ~$11.5M x 8 contract extension (NMC)

[NDiesel]

It's not even a bad contract, but pretty crazy that he'll be making slightly more than Pastrnak while never having a better season (one season Nylander did outscore him in more games, while Pasta was over PPG and he wasn't)

 

[JetsFan815]

A full NMC and no relief on the AAV? I bet they are also gonna frontload the contract with signing bonuses and also get no concessions on the AAV. Only in Toronto does a player get the most favorable terms on AAV, term, NTC/NMC and signing bonuses without having to sacrifice anything.

 

[LivingRentFree]

He’s definitely not better than Stutzle, who has a 90 point season, is half a decade younger, and will make over $3M less.

He is legitimately better at everything than Stutzle.

 

[MessierII]

At least he gave them 8 years?

Leafs positives

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

8 years 11.5mill

 

[I am Canadian]

Let's goooo!

 

[No Fun Shogun]

All I know is that the Hawks supposedly set ourselves into an impossible scenario when they gave both Kane and Toews $10+ million contracts simultaneously, and admittedly while we won another Cup before the contracts set in the lack of cap flexibility did rear its head for years afterwards.

The Leafs will now have four $10+ million players.

Good luck getting over the hump, Leafs, and without a Keith and a Hossa contract helping.

 

[34]

WILLY STYLES!

LFG!!!!!!! Huge win for Toronto

Matthews retained
Nylander retained

McDavid looking and saying… home sweet home.

 

[beowulf]

"might"?

Seems inevitable at this point, I doubt Treliving moves Marner in the offseason.

I mean ya the chances are slim but there is still a chance he or by some miracle, Tavares are moved.

 

[LivingRentFree]

All I know is that the Hawks supposedly set ourselves into an impossible scenario when they gave both Kane and Toews $10+ million contracts simultaneously, and admittedly while we won another Cup before the contracts set in the lack of cap flexibility did rear its head for years afterwards.

The Leafs will now have four $10+ million players.

Good luck getting over the hump, Leafs, and without a Keith and a Hossa contract helping.

Tavares is off the books in one year. Brodie. And a couple others. With the cap going up, we are comfortable.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Being the best team out of 32 in any given year is a difficult task. You need all areas of your team, forwards, defence and goalies working well.

This team is an experiment in whether a team can win with 4 elite front end pieces, and a complete dumpster fire at D and G. The experiment will continue for the foreseeable future.

Think about the teams that have won the Cup the past bunch of years...

Vegas - Theodore, Pietro, etc
Avs - Makar, Toews, etc
Tampa - Hedman, Serg, Vasi
Blues - Pietro, Binnington, etc
Caps - Carlson, Holtby, etc
Pens - Letang, etc
Hawks - Keith, Seabrook, etc
Kings - Doughty, Quick, etc

Incredible the Leafs aren't seeing this pattern. Like I said, this is an experiment. An experiment in futility.

Makar and Towes combined made less than Brodie during the cup run.
Hedman Serg and Vasi combined made around what Klingberg + Bertuzzi + Samsonov make during the first run
Pietro + Binnington combined made less than Rielly
I could go on. You guys keep conflating “good defenseman” with expensive defenseman. The core could have taken 3 mil less each and we wouldn’t be any closer to a Makar or Hedman without a top 5 pick.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

You can just hear the Leafs ticket prices going up and up, cha ching, cha ching.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Smart.

 

[Prairie Habs]

At least he gave them 8 years?

Leafs positives

Weren't leafs fans arguing that matthews getting 4 years was perfect because he'll go from 27-31 and anything longer would be paying a premium for dropping production? Weird how it's suddenly fine when willy signs for 8 years starting when he's 28.

 

[TGWL]

That's a horrible contract. That's 13+M on the open Market

No, that's 11.5, only over 8 years instead of 7. Doubt the open market had 13+ million. This is basically market value, not any type of discount here.

 

[Iggys Dome]

I understand he's been a great winger the past few seasons, but does he really demand 11.25M, even with the cap going up?

I can't help but feel Leafs fans will hate this deal in a couple seasons. I could totally be wrong tho, I'm just surprised at the overwhelming positive reaction by Leafs fans.

 

[AvroArrow]

Well ya it'd be closer to a #2/3D than a #4. Plus a decent 1st and prospect. He has a massive cap hit so it's not easy to
facilitate a trade unless in the offseason.

Not sure he pulls a #1D but do you have any comparable trades of recent history?

If it's not a #1D he's not being traded. Not trading a legitimate top line RW who plays in all situations for a #2/#3 D man. Picks/prospects are not guaranteed.

 

[I am Canadian]

I understand he's been a great winger the past few seasons, but does he really demand 11.25M, even with the cap going up?

I can't help but feel Leafs fans will hate this deal in a couple seasons. I could totally be wrong tho, I'm just surprised at the overwhelming positive reaction by Leafs fans.

I mean, just look at the company he is in

 

[AvroArrow]

I understand he's been a great winger the past few seasons, but does he really demand 11.25M, even with the cap going up?

I can't help but feel Leafs fans will hate this deal in a couple seasons. I could totally be wrong tho, I'm just surprised at the overwhelming positive reaction by Leafs fans.

Honestly, 10.5M ish is fair value, it's a bit of an overpayment, the full NMC is disgusting. But you can pay your star guys. Cap is expected to rise to 87.7M next season and then jump up again the following year, so it'll be fine.

 

[Number8]

Marner to Pittsburgh E5?

I thought Marner had an NMC as well?

In fact I thought Marner, Tavares, and Matthews all had NMC's that had kicked in. Have I got that wrong?

 

[mkatcherin00]

If you are Nylander and you are outproducing a guy like Matthews, you are not going to take any discount.

 

[HockeyVirus]

So did no one see Friedman's report the Leafs looked hard for an impact dman they could use this money and and didn't find any that would make them better than keeping Willy?

I am happy to keep Nylander, and in a few seasons this deal will look great. Haters gunna hate. 99% of posters would love Nylander on their team.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

If it's not a #1D he's not being traded. Not trading a legitimate top line RW who plays in all situations for a #2/#3 D man. Picks/prospects are not guaranteed.

Can you list some #1D he would be moved for in your opinion then?

 

[Prairie Habs]

I mean, just look at the company he is in
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So one half season is the only thing worth looking at over an 8 year career? Charlie Lindgren is 2nd in the league in sv% over the same period of time. Would you be comfortable offering him an 8 year deal at superstar level money with a full NMC?

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

I mean, just look at the company he is in
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He's having a great year, but you can't expect him 10 point producer throughout the life of his contract. This is only his 2nd year playing at a PPG level.