Friedman: Leafs and Matthews discusing extension?

[Confucius]

https://www.tsn.ca/video/mckenzie-my-understanding-is-matthews-wants-an-eight-year-deal~1519135

Bobby Mac: My understanding is that Papi wants an 8 year deal

why cant i like this 100 times

 

[Kamiccolo]

https://www.tsn.ca/video/mckenzie-my-understanding-is-matthews-wants-an-eight-year-deal~1519135

Bobby Mac: My understanding is that Papi wants an 8 year deal

Breaking. Bobby Mac no longer reliable as per HFboards.

 

[NoName]

Why wouldn't Matthews want $10+ million a year for 8 years on a contending team, in the worlds biggest hockey market (with commensurate endorsement deals)?

Why wouldn't the Leafs want the guy who looks like he may be the second best player of his generation all the way through his prime?

Listen, Matthews is better than Nylander, Rielly and even Marner, better than anyone on the Leafs. Aside from McDavid there really isn't a better young piece in the NHL to build a team around (and a NHL player poll from this past season agrees with that). It is in a team's interest to keep such a player around as long as possible, because such a player really is irreplaceable.

 

[flamesforcup]

I have believed Mathews is better then McDavid since he was drafted and still believe it. He deserves at least an equal contract. Imo the guy is the best goal scoring C in the league and I weigh goals much higher then McDavids secondary assists. There shouldnt be a secondary assist its literally only a thing to make points seem higher.

Anyways pay the man making him highest paid player in the league and move on.

Cmon Mikey he hasnt even broken 70 points or even come close to an art ross or hart how is he better than Mcdavid. A hot little 5 game stretch doesnt mean anything

 

[Paul4587]

Friedman with another out there statement.

Of course Toronto and Matthews are discussing an extension, they have a star young player who they are going to lock up to a long term deal. I think he’s full of shit on the 5 year part. Maybe it was thrown out there but no way the leafs would try and limit his term.

 

[dubey]

It's pretty apparent. The player should be traded for blue line help and Dufas is desperate to sign him instead. DUMB.

Gold thanks

 

[NoName]

Cmon Mikey he hasnt even broken 70 and even come close to an art ross or hart how is he better than Mcdavid. A hot little 5 game stretch doesnt mean anything

I think the guy you are responding to might just want to see the Leafs in cap hell. The numbers bare out that McDavid is the best in the NHL. It is fair to say Matthews is superior in terms of goalscoring, but in terms of speed, passing and overall vision McDavid is the best in the NHL.

To be fair though Matthews would have easily broken 70 last year had he not been injured; he finished up with 63 points (34 of them as goals) in 62 games. Right now he is pretty much 1 ppg over his short career (and a bit over 1/2 a goal per game), which is elite production in today's NHL, no doubt, just not on par with McDavid's back to back 100+ point seasons.

 

[7even]

It baffles me that people think he's getting more than McDavid. That's a glass ceiling contract for this generation of stars. GM's have a vested interest in not inflating RFA salaries beyond reason.

Peter Chiarelli missed that memo.

 

[NoName]

Peter Chiarelli missed that memo.

And that is why despite having the best player in the NHL, the team around him is so poor that the Oilers are still a lottery team.

 

[HOPE]

14 x 8, imo. Matthews is an American. He won't take a discount.

lolol not a chance.

he won't get more than mcdavid.

 

[connormcmuffin]

Bridge then lock up for 8, maximize term, I don't care about cap hit, it's Auston

 

[Whileee]

I know Dubas is young, but I expect he's not so inexperienced that he would sign Matthews for less than 8 years so he can overpay Nylander, is he?

 

[mikeyp24]

Cmon Mikey he hasnt even broken 70 points or even come close to an art ross or hart how is he better than Mcdavid. A hot little 5 game stretch doesnt mean anything

If you go back to his rookie year you will see me say the same thing honestly. Same reason I have aleays picked Ovi as a better player then Sid. I personally value goal scorers over playmakers. When I was a Vancouver fan I never really thought Henrik was that impressive Daniel was the better player even though Hank wore the C and seemed to get more recognition.

So while he hasnt scored 70 he has put up very close to 50 im pretty sure. I dont weigh total points heavy if you are a goal scorer. Like for McDavid he is going to score 100 points but only 35 will be goals and another 35 of those will be secondary assists and that stat irks me so much.

I personally dont blame other people though if they like the the playmakers who assist more its a personal preference on what they view is important and more valuable to them ad a fan. To me goals are weighted double an assist for me because getting goals is how you win the game so scoring goals means you have the most effect on the game other then the goalienwho is directly responsible for stipping the score. Then primary assists are important if it is a legit reason you scored like a beauty seam pass to catch the goalie transition from left to right and you are directly connected to that score I think that is weighted at 1 point for me and then secondaries to me are like half a point because very VERY rarely is the 2nd to last person to touch it a key part of the score only the occasional tic tac toe. So Mathews who will get 45 and 20 to me is ok in my books. Now McDavid doing say 40 and 65 still very impressive but Again I'm just very weird in my habits and I know Im in a huge minority with my opinion there.

I think its because I grew up watching sports like say basketball to where only the last person to touch gets the assist and in football no one gets credit for someone elses score say if a reciever catches it and runs 20 yards and laterals it and that guy catches it and runs it the rest of the way for the score the person who scores gets full credit the original receiver gets no stat for that. So learning those sports before hockey I think dictated how I perceived the secondary assist and that impacts how I personally rank whonis a better player based on what I find to be the more important.

Sorry for the rant just figured id explain why my view might seem extreme compared to some others in here who might think Im crazy for thinking Mathews is the better player of McDavid and himself.

 

[Skolman]

I have believed Mathews is better then McDavid since he was drafted and still believe it. He deserves at least an equal contract. Imo the guy is the best goal scoring C in the league and I weigh goals much higher then McDavids secondary assists. There shouldnt be a secondary assist its literally only a thing to make points seem higher.

Anyways pay the man making him highest paid player in the league and move on.

Well there goes your credibility

 

[Soundwave]

I don't buy there's a glass ceiling. Crosby was not the top paid player forever, and McDavid won't be forever either.

Agents and players won't agree to any "rule" on that basis.

 

[Paul4587]

I have believed Mathews is better then McDavid since he was drafted and still believe it. He deserves at least an equal contract. Imo the guy is the best goal scoring C in the league and I weigh goals much higher then McDavids secondary assists. There shouldnt be a secondary assist its literally only a thing to make points seem higher.

Anyways pay the man making him highest paid player in the league and move on.

So I’m guessing you think Cheechoo and not Thornton should have won the Hart in 2006 then?

 

[mikeyp24]

Well there goes your credibility

There goes yours... see looks like everyone can take away everyones way to go...

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

8x10 mil per. Just get er done for the Leafs fans.

 

[mikeyp24]

So I’m guessing you think Cheechoo and not Thornton should have won the Hart in 2006 then?

Not nessasarily I cant even think back that far to remember what happened that year but its possible I supported someone else. I just think that every goal is worth 2 assists. And every goal is worth 4 secondary assists. To me there is 0 reason in todays NHL to count a secondary assist...

 

[PensPlz]

He'll get whatever McDavid got +$1

Everyone knows it. Just get on with it.

 

[talitintti]

8x14.5

 

[Luminiferous]

I would love for the Leafs to sign Matthews and or Marner, like now. To stick it to that POS Nylander.

 

[Cancuks]

What's wrong with five years? Keeps the cap hit down and if the Leafs haven't won a Cup in that 5 years there's something seriously wrong and at that point they should be rebuilding. If they do win a Cup or 2 Matthews probably stays after the 5 years is up and by then the cap has gone up to 90 million anyway.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

What's wrong with five years? Keeps the cap hit down and if the Leafs haven't won a Cup in that 5 years there's something seriously wrong and at that point they should be rebuilding. If they do win a Cup or 2 Matthews probably stays after the 5 years is up and by then the cap has gone up to 90 million anyway.

Imagine if Washington had done that with Ovechkin.

 

[howkie]

What's wrong with five years? Keeps the cap hit down and if the Leafs haven't won a Cup in that 5 years there's something seriously wrong and at that point they should be rebuilding. If they do win a Cup or 2 Matthews probably stays after the 5 years is up and by then the cap has gone up to 90 million anyway.

Why should Matthews risk 5 years when he can get 8?
Remember, there is always a chance he can get a career ending injury anytime, (this rule apply to any player) you want so long contract as possible, so you get your garantue money.