Leafs 4th. pick, 156th. overall is: Connor Brown - Forward RW

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All optimism must be immediately squashed. It's in the Realists handbook.

Shame he wasn't picked by Chicago or Detroit. The sky would be the limit for the kid instead of just an AHL 2nd liner.
 

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Dany Roussin was Crosby's winger in QMJHL.

Brown is having a great year statistically, but he is 20 and not very big nor that strong a skater and he does play with a potential generational talent in McDavid.

Time will tell if he amounts to anything, but the NHL is all about skating ability nowadays and its not a strength of Brown unfortunately.

I'd say that his lack of size is kind of a positive in this regard, because older guys will generally dominate juniors based on their physical attributes.
 

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Marc-Antoine Pouliot was the guy who played with Crosby that actually had some hype and was picked in the first round.
 

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I'd say that his lack of size is kind of a positive in this regard, because older guys will generally dominate juniors based on their physical attributes.

Smaller waterbugs tend to be successful in junior but their lack of size catches up to them at the pro level. If you're smaller you had better be a great skater to avoid contact and unfortunately for Brown he is only an average skater at this level.

Bigger players tend to get by longer on their size.

If one compared Biggs to Brown, despiter Conner's offensive numbers he isn't remotely considered close to Tyler as a prospect. Biggs is struggling at the pro level, but still consider the better prospect.
 

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How was his production when McDavid was at the WJC?

Good, Brown hasn't played with McDavid much even-strength since the Otters traded for Gaunce.

Reading around the boards this year is funny, it's like a lot of Leaf fans are scared to get excited about this guy for fear of being called homers or something. The kid is leading the OHL in scoring not as an overager, and has helped McDavid as much as McDavid has helped him. It's alright to be a little optimistic about him, isn't it? :laugh:
 

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Lots of people here clearly haven't watched the otters at all. Brown doesn't play with McDavid. He plays with Fox and Gaunce.
 

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His draft year stats aren't that awful though. He's put up better numbers in his draft year than some of the guys that went in the first round. I know you can't really compare, seeing as there are multiple ways to compare players but the numbers aren't bad

Brown(156th) - 25 goals , 28 assists 53 points in 68 games
Faksa(13th) - 29 goals , 38 assists , 67 points in 62 games
Wilson(16th) - 9 goals , 18 assists, 27 points in 49 games
Laughton(20th) - 21 goals, 32 assists, 53 points in 64 games
Gaunce(26th) - 28 goals , 40 assists , 68 points in 68 games

Not comparing skill or potential because IDK but point wise, he's not that bad for a 6th rounder
 

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Lots of people here clearly haven't watched the otters at all. Brown doesn't play with McDavid. He plays with Fox and Gaunce.

Brown and Fox are both 20 year olds and Gaunce is a 1st round pick in the NHL.

Its a stacked OHL line even without McDavid on it based on Brown's linemates.

Erie is strong team as Gaunce was acquired to make them even stronger come playoff time.
 

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Brown and Fox are both 20 year olds and Gaunce is a 1st round pick in the NHL.

Its a stacked OHL line even without McDavid on it based on Brown's linemates.

Erie is strong team as Gaunce was acquired to make them even stronger come playoff time.

Not the point I was trying to make. People are trying to compare brown to Crosby 's junior wingers when the fact of the matter is brown isn't playing with the generational talent on his line like many here assume. Brown can carry the line just as much as fox or Gaunce can.
They are a spectacular to watch. Let alone the McDavid - Burakovsky line.
 

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He fits as a prospect with high skill upside who has a few shortcomings to improve upon after he turns pro (strength, skating speed, skating agility).

OT: McKegg brought some fairly impressive skating, good hockey sense and good puck skills to the AHL. It isn't easy to excel at that level without the strength and exceptional speed as we're seeing thus far for McKegg. McKegg is progressing pretty decently anyways.
 

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He's in Erie and he fits in the OHL.

He's in junior and fits around the top 10 on our prospects list
 

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Why do people beleive Conner Brown was left off of Team Canada at the WJC, without even an invite despite leading the OHL in scoring?
 

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Tyler Toffoli is progressing pretty well in LA and he was supposed to be another weak skating career AHLer. I'm a believer in guys who think the game at a high level. Smarts can help a player overcome weak physical or technical attributes.
 

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So much wrong information in this thread.

1. Brown doesn't play with McDavid, and if you watched him play he is the top player on his line.
2. He just turned 20 3 days ago, he is not an over ager yet, he is in his 3rd not 4th season.
3. We do not know how if production will translate to the NHL, let alone the AHL, but it has been noted by many scouts that he scores the types of goals and makes the kinds of passes that can translate despite his lack of foot speed.

In addition, he is a work horse and has a great attitude. He will do everything he can to make it to the NHL and the only things that can slow him down he has already been working on (explosiveness and size). I remember he did an interview where he said his goal was 8 lbs. a year so that he can ensure he does not bulk up and lose speed. We should take his production as a good sign and enjoy watching the kids growth vs. putting pressure on him to be the next great one. As a 6th round pick, it is a success story if he ever dresses in the blue & white. People complain we don't take enough high upside/low risk players. Well we have one here.
 

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Brown and Fox are both 20 year olds and Gaunce is a 1st round pick in the NHL.

Its a stacked OHL line even without McDavid on it based on Brown's linemates.

Erie is strong team as Gaunce was acquired to make them even stronger come playoff time.

Brown literally just turned 20 years old. He IS NOT in his 20 year old season. Overage and 20 year old season are considered synonymous, Brown is not in his overage season.

Mark Scheifele played in the OHL as a 20 year old and that isn't held against him.

Laughton is in his 4th OHL season, is mere months younger than Brown, plays with a likely top 5 NHL draft pick, weighs a full 7 pounds more than Brown, and yet his production is actually credited to him.

What? How is that any different than Brown, who I might add is in only his 3rd OHL season, and has better production on a PPG basis over a longer period of time.

Like my goodness, the double standards are ridiculous.
 

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Those late round steals usually need to jump through a few hurdles before we really know what they are. For Brown, the OHL stats compiling is a great first step but he was drafted two years ago, so it's not that amazing.

What he'll need to do is grab a hold of a top six scoring job in the AHL next season, keep producing (like Greg McKegg hasn't) and start earning those call-ups in a year and a half or two.

thing is not only is he an overager in the OHL this year which usually gives you an advantage he's also playing with an overager aswell in Dane Fox whose currently on pace to be like the 5th player in OHL history to score 80 goals.
 

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