Movies: Last Movie You Watched and Rate It | Part#: Some High Number

KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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May 30, 2003
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Chappaquiddick. A dive into the infamous Ted Kennedy accident and the few days of aftermath/spin. I have to admit, I’m pleasantly surprised at how compelling this movie wound up being. Got decent to good reviews early in the year and it’s always been on my radar because the story depicted has always been one of the more interesting and shockingly un-dramatized (given the family and drama involved) out there.

Teddy, as depicted here, is an appropriately complex subject and I admire the film’s willingness to be fair to the pressures on him while not ever once forgiving his failings. It’s not out of bounds to view him as the least among his brothers and that pressure was likely debilitating, and yet his actions here, as accurately depicted are despicable. It’s all a sickening tragedy and while I don’t think he deserves forgiveness, there is a sad understanding conveyed here that feels accurate. Ed Helms (of all people) serves as the only figure who actually has control of a moral compass. The rest of the cast is borderline characatures, but there’s some real meat there between Jason Clarke’s Teddy and Helms’ Joe which was more effective than it has any right to be.

The scenes of Teddy trying to wind down post-accident in a tub while the film cuts to Mary Jo Kopechne drowning in a car is as upsetting a sequence as I’ve seen in a movie this year.
 

Pranzo Oltranzista

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True Grit (the Coen version), was expecting something grittier, kind of meh... 4/10

Before Sunset, that was a rewatch and not the first, great dialogues, amazing acting. 9/10
 

Arizonan God

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Happy As Lazzaro (dir. Alice Rohrwacher)

An odd little movie, about a young man working as a sharecropper in Italy. Won’t say much else, because even though this one didn’t fully land for me, I would recommend a watch. And it’s best to go in fresh.

I had some big issues with the narrative and secondary characters. But I appreciate the ambition and beautiful visual style.

6/10

Available to stream on Netflix.
 

Pranzo Oltranzista

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Occupation, some dumb crap available on Netflix, tried to be Red Dawn with pretty cheap and ugly aliens (and bad visual effects), I went through it thinking the guy playing Arnold was Kane Hodder which kind of pleased me, but turns out I was completely wrong so there's nothing pleasing about that film. 2/10

(I reserve my 1/10 to movies that are so bad they're fun, not the case here, it's bad and cheesy)
 

kihei

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Before Sunset, that was a rewatch and not the first, great dialogues, amazing acting. 9/10
So given your high opinion of the film, what prevents you from going one step further and giving it a "10"? I'm interested because it is a slam dunk "10" for me, so I am curious about what made you stop just short of the ultimate score.
 
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So given your high opinion of the film, what prevents you from going one step further and giving it a "10"? I'm interested because it is a slam dunk "10" for me, so I am curious about what made you stop just short of the ultimate score.

I rank everything low in order to differentiate a great film (8) from a masterpiece (10). Quite a lot of films are 8s and 9s to me, but really only a few perfect 10s (I'd say less than 50, from the very many many movies I've seen). Before Sunset is an amazing film, but it lacks - to me - the uniqueness to make it a chef-d'oeuvre. It talks to me in ways very few films do, but it doesn't have the needed resonance to get me to scratch and re-think what's in there. For example, and kind of a companion piece to the Linklater film (it's hard not to think of it during Before Sunset's boat ride), Marguerite Duras' Aurelia Steiner (Melbourne) is a perfect 10. If you haven't seen it, you can find it on YouTube, but only in French. Most people would find it very boring, but it's hypnotic and so very touching and complex... Anyway, I don't normally share my rankings, I just wanted to join the fun in here, don't mind me too much! :)
 

Spring in Fialta

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True Grit (the Coen version), was expecting something grittier, kind of meh... 4/10

Before Sunset, that was a rewatch and not the first, great dialogues, amazing acting. 9/10

Always thought Before Sunset was the best in the trilogy but it feels like it's the one thats gets forgotten the most, probably due to the iconic status of the first one and how recent the last one was. But it's such a fine, fine film and I hate Paris!
 

Spring in Fialta

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So given your high opinion of the film, what prevents you from going one step further and giving it a "10"? I'm interested because it is a slam dunk "10" for me, so I am curious about what made you stop just short of the ultimate score.

Wow. Didn't know that. You consider Before Sunset one of the best movies of all-time? I think it's brilliant, one of the best movies of its decade, but I don't know that I'd rank it among my absolute favorites. Maybe if I really made an honest attempt at a list.
 

kihei

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I rank everything low in order to differentiate a great film (8) from a masterpiece (10). Quite a lot of films are 8s and 9s to me, but really only a few perfect 10s (I'd say less than 50, from the very many many movies I've seen). Before Sunset is an amazing film, but it lacks - to me - the uniqueness to make it a chef-d'oeuvre. It talks to me in ways very few films do, but it doesn't have the needed resonance to get me to scratch and re-think what's in there. For example, and kind of a companion piece to the Linklater film (it's hard not to think of it during Before Sunset's boat ride), Marguerite Duras' Aurelia Steiner (Melbourne) is a perfect 10. If you haven't seen it, you can find it on YouTube, but only in French. Most people would find it very boring, but it's hypnotic and so very touching and complex... Anyway, I don't normally share my rankings, I just wanted to join the fun in here, don't mind me too much! :)
On the contrary, glad to have you aboard.
 
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Shareefruck

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I actually think there's a gulf in quality between the first two and Midnight, which I found merely okay.

I agree that the ideas in Sunset are by far the strongest of the three, but there's just a palpable mood and atmosphere to Sunrise that the other two don't have, IMO. I'll have to rewatch the two.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're the greatest movies of all time either, but it is an incredible trilogy.
 
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kihei

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Wow. Didn't know that. You consider Before Sunset one of the best movies of all-time? I think it's brilliant, one of the best movies of its decade, but I don't know that I'd rank it among my absolute favorites. Maybe if I really made an honest attempt at a list.
There is certainly not many purely romantic films that I would rank ahead of it, Let's see, Jules and Jim, Casablanca, In the Mood for Love, Days of Being Wild (I have a soft sport for Chunking Express, too, but I probably wouldn't give it a "10"), A Man and a Woman (harder to defend...but not impossible). And to the extent that it's a romance, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, too. That's about it for the competition. I think Before Sunrise is just about perfect; I think it is a wonderful take on young love, the magic of the right time and the right place (wouldn't have worked if it was set in Newark, as I think Linklater pointed out once), and how a relationship can move very quickly from nervous potential to natural closeness in almost the blink of the eye (which isn't a bad working definition of romance). Everything in it--the wonderful characters played superbly by Hawke and Delpe, the believable dialogue, the well judged pacing, and so on--contributes to its overall effect. So, yeah, definitely a "10" for me.

Later: thought of another factor. Before the second one came out there was a gap of several years in which every now and then I still got into arguments with virtual strangers as to whether he comes back at Christmas or not. The debate was pretty equally divided and could get heated as these things go. I was definitely in the "he comes back" camp. I think he would have been a fool not to. But no shortage of folks saw it differently. It's a rare movie that excites that kind of interest.
 
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Spring in Fialta

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There is certainly not many purely romantic films that I would rank ahead of it, Let's see, Jules and Jim, Casablanca, In the Mood for Love, Days of Being Wild (I have a soft sport for Chunking Express, too, but I probably wouldn't give it a "10"), A Man and a Woman (harder to defend...but not impossible). And to the extent that it's a romance, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, too. That's about it for the competition. I think Before Sunrise is just about perfect; I think it is a wonderful take on young love, the magic of the right time and the right place (wouldn't have worked if it was set in Newark, as I think Linklater pointed out once), and how a relationship can move very quickly from nervous potential to natural closeness in almost the blink of the eye (which isn't a bad working definition of romance). Everything in it--the wonderful characters played superbly by Hawke and Delpe, the believable dialogue, the well judged pacing, and so on--contributes to its overall effect. So, yeah, definitely a "10" for me.

Later: thought of another factor. Before the second one came out there was a gap of several years in which every now and then I still got into arguments with virtual strangers as to whether he comes back at Christmas or not. The debate was pretty equally divided and could get heated as these things go. I was definitely in the "he comes back" camp. I think he would have been a fool not to. But no shortage of folks saw it differently. It's a rare movie that excites that kind of interest.

I would have went with he never shows up. :laugh:

I figure the logistics of it + the thought of the feelings dying off due to distance/lack of contact + the possibility of meeting someone else in the mean time to kill their hasty plan.
 
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I actually think there's a gulf in quality between the first two and Midnight, which I found merely okay.

I agree that the ideas in Sunset are by far the strongest of the three, but there's just a palpable mood and atmosphere to Sunrise that the other two don't have, IMO. I'll have to rewatch the two.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're the greatest movies of all time either, but it is an incredible trilogy.

I thought the 3rd one was the weakest, but still brilliant. The fight scene was definitely memorable. The way Celine says " You're not Henry Miller. In any type of way. " was very poignant. Completely mean-spirited and knowing your partner (and their insecurities) well enough to be able to go for the juggular was great. All three movies are filled with these delicate little touches that elevate them to such great heights (the music booth scene in the 1st one and the way they look at the other while avoiding being obvious, the way Celine says " Oh no! " and laughs nervously after Jesse admits to having actually shown up in the 2nd one...) show an incredible awareness to romantic detail that make it stand out from almost all romance movies. And it doesn't pander either. It's just intelligent writing.
 
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Unbreakable is one of my favourite movies. As a result, I was really looking forward to Glass. Sadly, the reviews are BAD - as per Rotten Tomatoes.
 

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Beautiful boy: 8/10 Great acting by the 3 leads and great score.

Bad Times at the El Royale: 7.3/10 Great score.

Bird Box: 6.8/10 Bird box is a mix of The Happening, a quiet place and the Walking dead. It's Nothing new. You need to went in with low expectations and suspension of disbelief in order to appreciate it.
 

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Set in the 1950s against the backdrop of the Cold War, for reasons I can only guess--and my guess is either an homage to the drive-in B-movie monster flicks popular back then, or a distancing effect so not to be seen as too preachy by a contemporary audience--The Shape of Water nonetheless has much to say about the Twitterverse's pet causes: inclusion, tolerance, me too--and is populated with characters with the right contemporary values. Except for the villain, who is most definitely a dinosaur--just so there's no confusion over who the real monster is. [B+]

mother! I don't know what it means either, and with all due respect I'm not interested in interpretations…why spoil the fun? I really enjoyed the ride, a precision-controlled descent into nightmarish chaos and madness. [B ]
 
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kihei

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It's amazing how way back when Orson Welles couldn't find any studio willing to finance his projects, but Shyamalan keeps making bad movie after bad movie. What is Glass, like, his ninth turkey in a row?
 

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It's amazing how way back when Orson Welles couldn't find any studio willing to finance his projects, but Shyamalan keeps making bad movie after bad movie. What is Glass, like, his ninth turkey in a row?
His career started off so well.

Sixth Sense was loved - it fooled me and I thought it was terrific!

Myself and Quentin Tarantino believe Unbreakable is a masterpiece - it's always nice to be in good company. ;)

As for the rest of his movies... :ha:
 
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ProstheticConscience

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M Night Shyamalamadingdong just needs someone to take over his movies right before the climax to bring them home. He's great at setting a scene (sometimes) and building tension...but when the twist happens the bubble bursts and everything just dies. I liked The Village...right up until the twist. Liked Signs...right up until it died. The Sixth Sense is the only one of his that I thought followed through enough to be a good complete movie. I hated Unbreakable. Mrs PC and I saw that on New Years Eve once upon a time...and we've both treated his movies with great caution ever since. Devil and the Happening were both so bad they slid into parody. My daughter once saw the Last Airbender, and she was a huge fan of the show. She was FURIOUS after coming back from the theatre. Like, I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've seen her that mad in her life.

Won't be seeing the new one.
 
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Pledge [2019] :

1984's Revenge Of The Nerds visits 2005's Hostel, and the result is 2019 Hazing Torture Porn. Unfortunately, while the concept makes for a semi-interesting horror plot, the nerds are so annoying, obnoxious and unlikable, you hope and pray the bad guys will put the geeks, and us, out of our collective misery - even at only 77 minutes, Pledge feels long.

To this poorly acted movie's credit, it will likely find a cult following and end up on T.V. in the fall as stations break out their horror collection for Halloween. And, since October is less than 9 months away, trust me when I say... you can wait !

4/10

Movie Trailer :
 
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