News Article: Lafleur says Vanek, Patches should GTFO

[WhiskeySeven*]

I agree with the concept that Vanek and Patches are not "warriors" right now; I haven't seen enough of Vanek but Patches is clearly not a power-forward, drive-the-line kind of guy - more of a sniper than anything really.

Thing is that in a capworld and an 82-game season, both Patches and Vanek are 35+ goal scorers who are worth a) whatever contract they get and b) to be given opportunities to succeed.

For every consistent playoff performer like Kane or Briere, there are Fernando Pisanis and other one-playoff-wonders. I'd give both Patches and Vanek the benefit of the doubt, on this young team, than ship them off and start from nowhere. We need talent, we don't have too much talent which then has to be loaded off.

Keep Patches, keep Vanek, get rid of dead-weight and once you have a good amount of consistent talent, then you can ship off the non-performers. Look at the Sharks.

 

[Ice Poutine]

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Lafleur should let hockey opinions to the pros and get back to "Guy Lafleur Recommends Revitive Circulation Booster" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFEcDKoHgY)
and start worrying about his son's upcoming prison life...

 

[Hullois]

g
Lafleur should let hockey opinions to the pros and get back to "Guy Lafleur Recommends Revitive Circulation Booster" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFEcDKoHgY)
and start worrying about his son's upcoming prison life...

Oh the irony

 

[Le Tricolore]

Guy Lafleur is a ****ing idiot. I wish he'd stop talking altogether. His opinion somehow matters way less to me than a random poster on here's would. **** him.

 

[Agnostic]

Guy Lafleur is a ****ing idiot. I wish he'd stop talking altogether. His opinion somehow matters way less to me than a random poster on here's would. **** him.

The thing is, he's 100 percent correct. Whether you value the opinion or not.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Even if he is a grumpy guy, he's right.
Well, Lafleur did show up when his team faced adversity. Player #20 and Player #67..., not frequently enough. Of course, we can wait before cutting them loose. No need to hurry.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

Lafleur should take care of what he calls a son.

 

[Le Tricolore]

Some posters obviously believe he was only on the Habs because he was french. He would never have had an NHL job otherwise

Oh, stop that. He was a great hockey player, but what he did then and what he says now are totally unrelated.

The thing is, he's 100 percent correct. Whether you value the opinion or not.

Every single team in the NHL would love a sniper like Pacioretty. I could see people not being thrilled with Vanek, so I'll let that one go, but to say you just can't win games with players "like that"

**** off, old man. Go away and never return.

 

[Tyson]

Lafleur has earned the right to be able to criticize any player donning the Hab jersey.

 

[PsychoticHab]

The thing is, he's 100 percent correct. Whether you value the opinion or not.

That they "didn't pay the price" or that we should "get rid of both of them"?

 

[coolasprICE]

Feel free to add to the portfolio ..

Guy Lafleur: Houle should have traded Koivu years ago

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=645969

Guy Lafleur telling European players to just stay there after the Lockout

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1269883

Guy Lafleur seriously bashes the team

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=361870

Guy Lafleur Should Be Hanged...

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=452986

Lafleur: The Canadiens don't have a 1st line. They have four 4th lines

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=446848

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Oh, stop that. He was a great hockey player, but what he did then and what he says now are totally unrelated.

Every single team in the NHL would love a sniper like Pacioretty. I could see people not being thrilled with Vanek, so I'll let that one go, but to say you just can't win games with players "like that"

**** off, old man. Go away and never return.

The current Max Pacioretty is indeed a failure at playing in the playoffs. All posts defending him always makes the argument that he'll do it on his next try. Fact is, Nathan Horton has done more to help his former team get there twice(although Aaron Rome eliminated him from the finals, but he produced many points for them).

Pacioretty does not have the hockey sense of elite snipers like Selanne; he is a breakaway specialist, first and foremost. He just happened to feast on some horrible goalies and defenses present on division rivals.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The thing is, he's 100 percent correct. Whether you value the opinion or not.

So we should get rid of Max and Vanek?

Lafleur has earned the right to be able to criticize any player donning the Hab jersey.

And we have the right to criticize him for what he says.

The current Max Pacioretty is indeed a failure at playing in the playoffs. All posts defending him always makes the argument that he'll do it on his next try. Fact is, Nathan Horton has done more to help his former team get there twice(although Aaron Rome eliminated him from the finals, but he produced many points for them).

Pacioretty does not have the hockey sense of elite snipers like Selanne; he is a breakaway specialist, first and foremost. He just happened to feast on some horrible goalies and defenses present on division rivals.

It took Lafleur a long time himself to establish his rep in the playoffs...

And you're right Max isn't Selanne and he never will be. But that doesn't mean he's the loser that Guy says he is. If Selanne is the standard then 90%+ of players aren't going to measure up.

 

[Agnostic]

That they "didn't pay the price" or that we should "get rid of both of them"?

He didn't say that did he?

 

[Feintastic]

****... bunch of **** in here lmao....

He just said they HAVE TO step their game up, not that they gotta get the **** out dumbass.... calm down caml down...

 

[PsychoticHab]

He didn't say that did he?

"Des gars comme (Thomas) Vanek et (Max) Pacioretty, tu ne peux pas garder ça dans ton équipe."

Yes he did.

 

[Agnostic]

So we should get rid of Max and Vanek?

And we have the right to criticize him for what he says.

You don't win with players like that, it's self explanatory. On at least the Vanek part, the entire hockey world agrees with him.

To lump Pacioretty in with Vanek, means he's calling him heartless. We know Pacioretty's track record maybe Lafleur is on to something.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

****... bunch of **** in here lmao....

He just said they HAVE TO step their game up, not that they gotta get the **** out dumbass.... calm down caml down...

He said you can't keep guys like this on the team... He went on to say that you can't win with these kinds of players.

So yeah, he basically said both these guys can GTFO. Our two best wingers...

You don't win with players like that, it's self explanatory. On at least the Vanek part, the entire hockey world agrees with him.

To lump Pacioretty in with Vanek, means he's calling him heartless. We know Pacioretty's track record maybe Lafleur is on to something.

You're saying the guy is 100 percent right. So basically we should get rid of both these guys...

Again, I get that folks are frustrated and it wasn't the best run for either one. But it's **** like this that people look back on and laugh at down the road.

 

[Agnostic]

He said you can't keep guys like this on the team... He went on to say that you can't win with these kinds of players.

So yeah, he basically said both these guys can GTFO. Our two best wingers...

Maybe he's on to something. Two best wingers?

 

[Hullois]

Lafleur should take care of what he calls a son.

Real classy. You are aware that his son has a mental illness right

Oh, stop that. He was a great hockey player, but what he did then and what he says now are totally unrelated.

Every single team in the NHL would love a sniper like Pacioretty. I could see people not being thrilled with Vanek, so I'll let that one go, but to say you just can't win games with players "like that"

**** off, old man. Go away and never return.

Sure, its not like great hockey players know a thing or two about hockey. Totally unrelated.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Maybe he's on to something. Two best wingers?

You don't think so? Seriously? You think we have better wingers than these guys?

 

[BigFatPapa]

I am shocked by the amount of hate Guy is getting around here. Where the hell is this coming from?!?!

It's a knee-jerk reaction to people jumping at Lafleur's defense because of his career as a player. Lafleur has a history of inflammatory hyperboles (Habs have four 4th lines, Koivu should have been traded by Houle, Euros should stay in Europe after the lockout...) that wouldn't be taken seriously if he wasn't a legend and that can get frustrating. He certainly has the right to state his opinion and this quote on Vanek and MaxPac isn't that bad, but I can't see how his history of comments is any better than the average 110%/L'Antichambre panelist. In the end, Lafleur has polarized people to such an extent (through a legendary career as a player, RDS talkback-worthy comments and legal problems) that on this board, it is impossible to discuss his opinions on their own merit, dissociated from the man himself.

 

[Agnostic]

You don't think so? Seriously? You think we have better wingers than these guys?

Vanek is not good enough to wash Dale Weises dirty equipment .

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Vanek is not good enough to wash Dale Weises dirty equipment .

Maybe we can trade Weise for Corey Perry then?

And I guess Rene Bourque is now a number one because he showed up for five minutes? Yes, what a warrior he is too...

 

[Analyzer*]

He's kinda right.

Pacioretty didn't play very well and in the Boston series he would get great opportunities to throw a solid hit and he wouldn't.

If you're not a physical player, that's fine, but if someone smokes you, you better get back up and look to smoke someone in a legal fashion. Allowing yourself to get run over time and time and time again while not doing anything about it isn't "character", or "resiliency" it's called be a giant ass *****.

Pacioretty was extremely bad against Ottawa, but had an injury. This year he was just bad.