Value of: Kuznetsov to Minnesota

[Kshahdoo]

I think, he could be good with Kaprizov, and I doubt Washington is a serious contender anytime soon. They actually need a rebuild, but with Ovi still there, it's a hard task. Still, Capitals should think about it.

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[North Man]

Maybe something around Dumba?

 

[ujju2]

I think, he could be good with Kaprizov, and I doubt Washington is a serious contender anytime soon. They actually need a rebuild, but with Ovi still there, it's a hard task. Still, Capitals should think about it.

Eh, Washington has the pieces to make another cup run any year. If Kuznetsov's moved (highly unlikely but not impossible), it won't be for futures.

 

[Boondock]

I think, he could be good with Kaprizov, and I doubt Washington is a serious contender anytime soon. They actually need a rebuild, but with Ovi still there, it's a hard task. Still, Capitals should think about it.

You don’t think the Caps are a contender this year?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Maybe something around Dumba?

Sure.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Washington is more likely to contend than Minnesota this season or next for that matter. They actually have a very deep roster. Only issue is they are pretty green in net but Samsonov has sky high potential. The premise if this makes little sense.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Washington is more likely to contend than Minnesota this season or next for that matter. They actually have a very deep roster. Only issue is they are pretty green in net but Samsonov has sky high potential. The premise if this makes little sense.

Even in its current form, with not enough good forwards Minnesota could beat Washington in playoffs, because it has good defense and goaltending and its core is way younger and grittier, which is important in playoff games.

Ovi is 36, Oshie is 34, Backstrom is 33. Even if they don't look terrible this season (they will never beat Boston or Tampa, or even Toronto in 7 game series, though), what about next season?

 

[Roshi]

Sure, take him.

Caps is looking to content again obviously, more than Minny, but I like our chances better without Kuznetsov.

Id like to have Pens 1st, just so we can throw it in their faces on the game threads if we ever win them again.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Even in its current form, with not enough good forwards Minnesota could beat Washington in playoffs, because it has good defense and goaltending and its core is way younger and grittier, which is important in playoff games.

Ovi is 36, Oshie is 34, Backstrom is 33. Even if they don't look terrible this season (they will never beat Boston or Tampa, or even Toronto in 7 game series, though), what about next season?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm not sure what you're basing yours on. Washington is one of the better teams in the league at suppressing high quality scoring chances but have been undone defensively by poor goaltending, which is not altogether surprising considering Vanecek started 12 straight games and he was billed for the taxi squad this year before the health condition with Hank and Samsonov coming down with Covid. And regardless of age, Washington still is one of the best finishing teams in the league.

I would be fine trading Kuznetsov but I don't see an attractive package that Minnesota could offer to make me consider moving him there.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

Idk Kuznetsov isn't a 1C and isn't great in the FO. Would need to be Dumba+another cap dump to make it work money wise. Something like Dumba+(Bjugstad/Bonino)+3rd or something like that.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

My interest in Kuznetsov would be borderline unhealthy

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I’m not sure exactly what Washington would want, but I’d do Dumba + Pitt 1st + Bonino

 

[Misery74]

I’m not sure exactly what Washington would want, but I’d do Dumba + Pitt 1st + Bonino

You’d have to take Jensen too.

 

[Black Kevin]

Idk Kuznetsov isn't a 1C

What...

 

[57special]

You’d have to take Jensen too.

Now, now.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

You’d have to take Jensen too.

Done.

 

[keppel146]

I’m not sure exactly what Washington would want, but I’d do Dumba + Pitt 1st + Bonino

I wonder if they’d want more?

 

[57special]

I’m not sure exactly what Washington would want, but I’d do Dumba + Pitt 1st + Bonino

That's not the worst offer. We could retain a bit on Bonino to make salaries synch up. I'm guessing that WAS would want someone like Greenway or JEE rather than Bonino, but that's a non starter for me.

If WAS wants a goalie, then Talbot is a decent 1B/backup. I don't know if i agree with the general premise of the OP, though. I think WAS still has a chance at a Cup. Backstrom is playing his ass off this year. Seems like a year or two too early to pack it in.

 

[Roshi]

Did they say Dumba+1st? Where do we sign? Gotta get it done before they see Kuznetsov play hockey in 2021.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

You’d have to take Jensen too.

Alright cool anything else?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

That's not the worst offer. We could retain a bit on Bonino to make salaries synch up. I'm guessing that WAS would want someone like Greenway or JEE rather than Bonino, but that's a non starter for me.

If WAS wants a goalie, then Talbot is a decent 1B/backup. I don't know if i agree with the general premise of the OP, though. I think WAS still has a chance at a Cup. Backstrom is playing his ass off this year. Seems like a year or two too early to pack it in.

I think that’s pretty fair value. He’s been a great player but there is defensive risk with the deal. The last thing we need is for him to mail it in and we’re stuck in a Johansen situation. I’ve watched a fair amount of the capitals games this year (all against Pitt) and he’s been a little bit invisible at times, but the skill is still there. I think using tape on his stick might help.

 

[57special]

Maybe stick him on a line with KK and Greenway, who can provide the defense and shake some pucks loose for those two to play with. Kinda hate to break up the Fiala/JEE/Greenway line, but Zuccarello is probably not going to be a good fit.

 

[Smitty426]

Idk Kuznetsov isn't a 1C and isn't great in the FO. Would need to be Dumba+another cap dump to make it work money wise. Something like Dumba+(Bjugstad/Bonino)+3rd or something like that.

Kuzy end up in NYC. IMO

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

Some of these Minny fans are delusional.

And no...we don’t need Dumba. If Kuzy were traded it would most likely be for a young forward +.

 

[2Pair]

Some of these Minny fans are delusional.

And no...we don’t need Dumba. If Kuzy were traded it would most likely be for a young forward +.

There's exactly 1 Wild fan in this thread with what could be called a bad take. Most seem to like Kuznetsov more than the Caps fans.

And yes, you could certainly use Dumba. That dcore is awful right now.