Injury Report: Kevin Shattenkirk Meniscus Tear. Out indefinitely.

[Mac n Gs]

Y’all do realize he was playing because he told AV he was good to go, right? We’ve seen this with G, Mac, and a few other players that played through injuries here. Stop trying to push narratives with everything.

 

[Krams]

It shouldn't have been up to Shattenkirk -- management just lets our prized FA signing play on a damaged knee that would've (and did) only deteriorated further?

This sucks and all but it may be a blessing in disguise. Gorton's hand is now forced, there's no longer any justification for being a buyer at the TDL. AV needs to be told by the front office to let them get a long look at DeAngelo from here on out.

 

[Miller Time NYR]

Good to see the HF doctors out in full force today. This sucks, certainly not the first player to play through an injury. Hopefully these idiots in our medical staff can help with a speedy recovery.

 

[pld459666]

Oh please, there are too many times that this comes up. It's all narrative. Girardi was a warrior for playing through everything, but Shattenkirk is dumb. He's not. He showed he's able to gut things out. He gets called soft quite a bit. Playing through a torn meniscus isn't soft.

He had also just signed for big money and wanted to prove something.

Playoffs are one thing. I'd have no issues if he did that during the playoffs, but during the Regular season? Idiot. And so was Girardi.

He hurt the team more than he helped it because he looked like shit for large stretches.

 

[pld459666]

You mean feeding Boogaards pill addiction wasn’t the right thing to do?

After three stints in rehab, when does the player start taking responsibility for his own actions.

I'm curious

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

It shouldn't have been up to Shattenkirk -- management just lets our prized FA signing play on a damaged knee that would've (and did) only deteriorate further?

This sucks and all but it may be a blessing in disguise. Gorton's hand is now forced, there's no longer any justification for being a buyer at the TDL. AV needs to be told by the front office to let them get a long look at DeAngelo from here on out.

It all depends. If we come out of this West Coast road trip at .500 with no Hayes/Kreider/Shatty/Staal it might not scream SELL to management. We'll have to wait and see how the next couple of weeks play out.

 

[Doctyl]

After three stints in rehab, when does the player start taking responsibility for his own actions.

I'm curious

Doctors should not be prescribing narcotics.

 

[Ail]

Who replaces his 23 points?

Who cares this was not a season they were looking to compete.

 

[nevesis]

After three stints in rehab, when does the player start taking responsibility for his own actions.

I'm curious

I suggest reading Sean Avery's book for exactly how it all went down, and did for many other players including himself back then. Times have significantly changed.

 

[Krams]

After three stints in rehab, when does the player start taking responsibility for his own actions.

I'm curious

His livelihood depended on it.

 

[SA16]

You realize the decision to play wasn't all his? The doctors were very involved, giving him shots/injections, and they reported there was hope it could heal on it's own. He didn't just decide he was playing against the medical staffs advice. Everyone was on board with it. If they didn't think it was a good idea they would have advised him to get the surgery immediately. They didn't.

 

[NYRKING30]

When did the injury occur? I don't recall anything being mentioned about him.

 

[NCRanger]

You shouldn't attempt to characterize other peoples' arguments if you don't understand them.

Unfortunately, I do understand their arguments. The argument is that a draft pick regardless of who it is, is better than a roster player who is producing, and because that roster player is a UFA, it is better to "sell" them and miss the playoff revenue for a shot in the dark that the draft pick will be a good player than can be an NHL caliber player quickly.

The problem with that argument is, unless that pick is a Top 10 pick, the chances the pick will pay immediate dividends is very small.

Look, if there was to sell a player for a HIGH PICK, yes, makes sense, but to sell for a low first or more likely a low second, you aren't just losing the current season, you're packing in the next few seasons as well. Then you are playing the lottery.

 

[pld459666]

His livelihood depended on it.

Find another line of work.

 

[Krams]

Find another line of work.

Easier said than done

 

[McRanger]

Actually, people who couldnt admit he stunk and suggested putting him on the top pair with a torn meniscus should feel really stupid now.

There's not enough stupid for both groups?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

It would explain a lot with his lackluster performances as of late if he's been injured for awhile..

 

[nevesis]

Who cares this was not a season they were looking to compete.

The New York Rangers compete every year to win it all, just like every other team in the league.

 

[Doctyl]

Actually, people who couldnt admit he stunk and suggested putting him on the top pair with a torn meniscus should feel really stupid now.

I mean if your ideal first pair is trotting Holden/Kampfer around, then by all means keep supporting defending this coaches personnel decisions.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

More Kampfer yay.

**** this season, blow it up

Worst part about this is that when Staal is healthy, DeAngelo will come out not Kampfer.

Kampfer will be the full time 6D until Shattenkirk is back. That's good for at least a handful losses on its own right there.

 

[Machinehead]

lol people are actually criticizing him for this.

If it was Girardi people would tripping and falling over the praise.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

It would explain a lot with his lackluster performances as of late if he's been injured for awhile..

Seems that his play starting to take a dip coincided pretty directly with when the effects of the cortisone shot he got started to wear off:

Shattenkirk:

"It's been going on since around the end of September into early October. We did a cortisone shot before the season which helped and started to wear off right around 8-10 weeks or so. We tried another PRP injection over the bye week and it's just the inflammation and everything started to creep back in. It's been going on all season, something we have been trying to progressively attack and it hasn't responded the way we hoped it would.

 

[GAGLine]

Unfortunately, I do understand their arguments. The argument is that a draft pick regardless of who it is, is better than a roster player who is producing, and because that roster player is a UFA, it is better to "sell" them and miss the playoff revenue for a shot in the dark that the draft pick will be a good player than can be an NHL caliber player quickly.

The problem with that argument is, unless that pick is a Top 10 pick, the chances the pick will pay immediate dividends is very small.

Look, if there was to sell a player for a HIGH PICK, yes, makes sense, but to sell for a low first or more likely a low second, you aren't just losing the current season, you're packing in the next few seasons as well. Then you are playing the lottery.

No, you clearly don't understand the argument many people are making, but I'm not going to argue with you. You can believe what you want. The only thing I will say is that players can be traded for other players too.

 

[Machinehead]

Oh and now AV is going to be absolved of putting him and Skjei together which was still f***ing stupid. That's fun.

 

[Doctyl]

Oh and now AV is going to be absolved of putting him and Skjei together which was still ****ing stupid. That's fun.

No one should be allowed to forget that he publicly called out shattenkirk a couple weeks ago