Injury Report: Kevin Shattenkirk Meniscus Tear. Out indefinitely.

[aufheben]

So there is no specific date that this happened, to anyone's knowledge?

Would you prefer that bus drivers prescribe them?

"Hello Kevin, the surgery was a complete success. We're going to prescribe you a short-term supply of turmeric and dried seahorses for the pain".

 

[Synergy27]

Hope this explains his play because he has sucked.

Also hope this erases any delusion that this team was winning something this year.

Keep stacking the deck for the rebuild. Good draft upcoming.

 

[Ori]

I will still miss playoffs if we can`t achieve it based on injuries, but it looks difficult now with Kevin out too waiting for surgery.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

The Rangers doctors know a lot more than you do regarding his injury. He thought it might be able to heal itself through treatment.

A meniscus is never going to heal itself, but it is something that can be managed. I’ve had a partial tear in my left knee for five years, and I’ve been able to play twice a week since it happened.

Now, Shattenkirk obviously plays far more games at far higher a level than I have or ever will, but it’s not inconceivable that he thought he could last until the offseason.

Personally, I feel the instability in my knee, but I brace it each game and really don’t feel any pain during physical activity. However, I can have pain the following day if I overuse it. I think it’s due to the extra strain put on my connective tissue because of the instability in the knee. It usually manifests as intense pain 3-4 inches above my kneecap, but is gone the next day.

I guess my point is that I can see why he thought he could play through it. I can’t imagine playing at such a high level so often with the injury, but I don’t have access to the level of medical care and therapy he does.

 

[egelband]

So there is no specific date that this happened, to anyone's knowledge?

"Hello Kevin, the surgery was a complete success. We're going to prescribe you a short-term supply of turmeric and dried seahorses for the pain".

Hey, PEOPLE say... turmeric is a terrific antioxidant. And Oprah has been on sea horses for YEARS.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

When did the injury occur? I don't recall anything being mentioned about him.

I can speak from personal experience here. Meniscus tears are very hard to pinpoint when they’ve happened. They can happen very gradually due to wear and tear.

Personally, I think mine happened during a warm up where I caught a rut in the ice and slightly tweaked my knee. It felt weird for a few minutes, then went away. I played the entire game and didn’t feel a thing.

Then, almost a week later, while having some “fun” with my wife, I start to feel some pain above the knee. There wasn’t some catastrophic moment when I knew something was seriously wrong.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

And just one more thing and then I’ll leave it be, but I feel some posters might not understand. A meniscus isn’t something that heals itself. Your meniscus is cartilage. It doesn’t regenerate. The surgery they perform cuts the torn portion out so the tear doesn’t get any bigger. They also remove any scar tissue or debris to try and restore stability to the knee. That knee will never be the same. Unless, of course, he gets a donor meniscus (from a deceased person), in which case the recovery period is far longer. I think Carson Palmer had the meniscus replacement surgery a few years ago.

 

[pld459666]

My wife had two meniscus issues, not once did the doctor indicate that they can heal on their own.

 

[darko]

And just one more thing and then I’ll leave it be, but I feel some posters might not understand. A meniscus isn’t something that heals itself. Your meniscus is cartilage. It doesn’t regenerate. The surgery they perform cuts the torn portion out so the tear doesn’t get any bigger. They also remove any scar tissue or debris to try and restore stability to the knee. That knee will never be the same. Unless, of course, he gets a donor meniscus (from a deceased person), in which case the recovery period is far longer. I think Carson Palmer had the meniscus replacement surgery a few years ago.

Maybe we can kill off Vesey.

 

[Inferno]

A meniscus is never going to heal itself, but it is something that can be managed. I’ve had a partial tear in my left knee for five years, and I’ve been able to play twice a week since it happened.

Now, Shattenkirk obviously plays far more games at far higher a level than I have or ever will, but it’s not inconceivable that he thought he could last until the offseason.

Personally, I feel the instability in my knee, but I brace it each game and really don’t feel any pain during physical activity. However, I can have pain the following day if I overuse it. I think it’s due to the extra strain put on my connective tissue because of the instability in the knee. It usually manifests as intense pain 3-4 inches above my kneecap, but is gone the next day.

I guess my point is that I can see why he thought he could play through it. I can’t imagine playing at such a high level so often with the injury, but I don’t have access to the level of medical care and therapy he does.

I have a similar issue in my right knee. As long as I brace it and don't do anything extreme in the game I'm fine...eventually I'll need to be scoped though.

 

[Captain Lindy]

Well that explains why he botched that coverage on the William Karlsson goal

I would imagine it would mess up his speed shifting ability, things like that????

 

[Doctyl]

My wife had two meniscus issues, not once did the doctor indicate that they can heal on their own.

Probably something more like, your meniscus is starting to tear. You can have surgery or you can get a steroid injection and tough it out.

Shattenkirk being a proud athlete probably wanted to play through it if he could. Rangers organization probably encouraged this because they wanted to try out their new toy (same thing they did when they swept Boogaards failed drug tests and addiction problems under the rug).

 

[Captain Lindy]

I suggest you get new glasses.

I don't get the snark. I'm talking about facts here. Are you implying Shatty has been good?

 

[Hire Sather]

I imagine it's something you can live with as a normal human, but playing professional hockey presents some issues.

 

[Crease]

I have a miniscus tear in my left knee dating back to a game ten years ago in which a forward fell on my leg during a scrum in front. Was out six weeks with a sprained MCL but never did opt for surgery to fix/remove the loose cartilage. Get an odd sensation on rainy days and have to warm up extra carefully on leg day.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

Why is it so hard to understand that it's kind of totally irresponsible of the Rangers to allow an employee play through an injury that had the potential to hit this point way earlier?

Yeah, he might have made it through the whole season just fine, but it was a ticking time bomb. Instead of being reactive, KS22 and the Rangers could have been proactive here.

Making medical decisions based on a player "wanting to play" is the dumbest thing ever. Should never enter the conversation.

Really? Of course the medical staff cleared Shattenkirk to play--players (or coaches) don't get to make that final decision. There are many injuries that players can play through--if they can handle the pain. Something probably changed and the diagnosis changed with it.
nevesis is right. This is hockey. Players get dinged up and play through i. It got worse. Guess he can't take that vacation now--he'll be rehabbing pretty soon.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

No one should be allowed to forget that he publicly called out shattenkirk a couple weeks ago

Feel free to remind me--I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on a hockey board: I just go by the information available. Shattenkirk has been very vocal about the need for him to play better. He wasn't making any excuses, why should anyone doubt his words?

None of us knew the details. What's the problem with voicing an opinion about what we see and know?

 

[Doctyl]

Feel free to remind me--I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on a hockey board: I just go by the information available. Shattenkirk has been very vocal about the need for him to play better. He wasn't making any excuses, why should anyone doubt his words?

None of us knew the details. What's the problem with voicing an opinion about what we see and know?

AV knew all the details.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

AV knew all the details.

Of course he did. The "we" I was referring to are (some of) the posters who comment without knowing any of the details the organization knows--and did not release.

AV is not going to force a player out of the lineup who says he can play AND is medically cleared. Something changed--the injury didn't respond and now Shattenkirk is going to have surgery.

 

[Doctyl]

Of course he did. The "we" I was referring to are (some of) the posters who comment without knowing any of the details the organization knows--and did not release.

AV is not going to force a player out of the lineup who says he can play AND is medically cleared. Something changed--the injury didn't respond and now Shattenkirk is going to have surgery.

AV shouldn’t have called out a player publicly that he knew was playing through a meniscus tear

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

Here's some medical info about the miniscus--sometimes it can heal on it's own (depending on the location of the tear). As always the devil is in the details.

The location (zone) of the tear is one of the most important things that helps determine treatment.

• Tears at the outer edge of the meniscus (red zone) tend to heal well because there is good blood supply. Minor tears may heal on their own with a brace and a period of rest. If they do not heal or if repair is deemed necessary, the tear can be sewn together. This repair is usually successful in the red zone.
• The inner two-thirds (white zone) of the meniscus does not have a good blood supply, so it does not heal well either on its own or after repair. If torn pieces float into the joint space, which may result in a "locked" knee or cause other symptoms, the torn portion is removed (partial meniscectomy) and the edges of the remaining meniscus are shaved to make the meniscus smooth.

Meniscus Tear-Treatment Overview

This has a pretty picture of a knee and the location(s)

Torn meniscus - Symptoms and causes

 

[RangerBlues]

2 months at best?

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

AV shouldn’t have called out a player publicly that he knew was playing through a meniscus tear

Shattenkirk was at least as critical of his own play--what AV supposed to do? Make excuses? Tell everyone that he injured, even though he's cleared to play? Take a look at Uncle Larry's comments about it--he's right. Journalists asked AV about Shattenkirk's play and he responded with a critique of of his recent play, he's not authorized to discuss someone's medical condition, that comes from the front office.

But go ahead and blame AV. It's all his fault.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

2 months at best?

Typical recovery time is generally 6-8 weeks. But, obviously that depends on the type of tear and what needs to be done during surgery. I suspect it will be one of those things they will be vague about and then Shattenkirk will suddenly be close to returning.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

This, give him Shattys role on the PP straight off and let him shine!

Ha!