My question is why hate him so much? Its not warranted. Not even close.
I think people forget that Lowe was only a GM for eight years. His tenure finished in 2008. New ownership took over and installed their stooge who could be counted on to follow the playbook.
No hate on my part but his job since 2008 has been President of Hockey operations. He's the name at the top rung of this organization every single year that we've finished worst in the league. He's been in charge of turning this thing around and been involved (to what degree is a valid arguement) with every hockey decision that has been made for over a decade. At what point do we decide he just might not be all that good at his job? When can we say that despite all the set backs and factors that have made it hard to turn this team into a contender we expect some kind of results from this organization? He's gone through one gm and 4 head coaches, when does he get called to task for his failure to hire the right people?
Kevin Lowe is a bonafide moron and probably in the top five worst professional sports executives ever. This isn't news.
Never according to some.
Speaking for myself (and some others possibly) it's not that he shouldn't be held accountable. He absolutely should be relieved of his job. You just shouldn't use events from the past out of context. Most of us loved Nail's celebration after he tied that Kings game last year because of the context of what took place with the reffing that night. If we look back on that without a proper view of what was actually going on then Nail looks like a total j-ass. It's the same with the Lowe-Burke feud/interview.
Or refusing to trade Mike Comrie unless he paid back his bonus money? Or the team's record under his tenure? Or the fact he is STILL making hockey decisions even after years and years of abject failure?
People point to 2006 as a high water mark for Lowe. To me it was his undoing. He traded for/signed a bunch of (mostly) pending ufa's. Pretty much all of whom flew the coup after Pronger pulled the wool over everyone's eyes by requesting a trade DURING the first year of a six year deal.
It really doesnt get any worse than that. The following rush to plug holes in the dyke resulted in a plethora of overpays and bad contracts that plagued the team for years. What we see out on the ice now is a direct result of the aftermath of 2006 and a big reason why we havent seen a playoff game since then.
Lowe's best years were as a player, followed by his brief tenure as coach (something he was actually good at), followed by his tenure as gm under EIG, which then went terribly wrong in 06 following the implementation of the salary cap. Lowe, not unlike his mentor Sather, have been awful with a blank cheque type ownership.
It doesn't matter to me that we traded for a bunch of UFA's, the 2006 cup run was a special time for the entire city. It helped usher in a whole new wave of Oiler fans, plus what guy didn't like "shirts off for Horcoff." In reality the only asset that we lost of any significance was the outside chance we'd draft Lucic in the 2nd round.
No one is saying he was some great GM...... he had a few good moments though and I give him full marks for 2006. Why? Because it was the most fun I've had as an Oiler fan.
I guess we have to determine what being "good" at his job would look like.At what point do we decide he just might not be all that good at his job?
Not really. We barely even made the playoffs that year. The cinderella run was more fluke than by design.
Edmonton was a pariah for years after that. Still is really. We cant attract good veteran players. They invoke their nmc's and ntc's. That is why Mr six rings decided to ride the suck for picks after the Heatley debacle and the resulting season of crap.
If you actually watched hockey that year, that was a very good team with very bad goaltending.
To suggest that Lowe shouldnt have made the moves that he did, with the resultant SCF 7th game, is patently ridiculous. Those trades as a whole were off the charts.
Its part of the loser mentality Replacement is talking about in his thread. Some fans have become so beaten and cowed by the years of failure and draft picks under Katz that they no longer recognize an intelligent hockey move.To suggest that Lowe shouldnt have made the moves that he did, with the resultant SCF 7th game, is patently ridiculous.
Yes they were. Probably the best series of moves any Oiler GM has ever pulled off, and certainly a candidate for the best series of trades by any GM in the league over the first decade of the 2000s.Those trades as a whole were off the charts.
Yes, of course you are right as always. Good thing you actually watched hockey that year. You would obviously know that Roloson posted a .905 sv% in his 19 regular season games with the Oilers. Good enough for 26th best in the league.
Of course that very good team with really bad goaltending was actually 12th in GA/G while 15th in GF/G. A real juggernaut they were. Last seed in the playoffs my eye. Odds on favourite? You bet.
Where he really shone was in the playoffs. But then again, it is fairly obvious to those who actually watched all the games these last seven years that the trades made that season provided short term gain at the expense of loooooooong term pain. Still felt today really.
urgh, makes me sick flames fans are already saying monahan is better than nuge.
worst part is, monohan would be leading our team in goals and points. great player, but in all fairness, hes being properly insulated unlike our kids who have to do everything by themselves. URGH this franchise sometimes
Again, if you watched hockey, which is doubtful, Rolli had barely played all year when he got here & it took him a bit of time to get his game together.
And it was clear from watching the Oilers in the 1st 40 or so games there lack of goaltending was starting to really affect the team.
Its actually comical but typical that you actually critisize the actual real good moves that Lowe made.
But again, no surprise there.
Really good moves. Right. Seven years of failure and counting.
Regular genius.
Hate to see what you consider bad moves.
Flames actually kept players that are capable of playing hockey. What a concept. Makes it so much easier for rookies to ease into the league when they aren't expected to carry the whole team.
Flames basically have a handful of Gordons, whereas we waited years to really get help and then we fell short.
Well, if you cant see the distinction between the moves that got them to the SCF and his other moves,well I just cant say much more than than your opinion speaks for itself.
No surprise here.
The moves that got us to the Cup final WERE the moves that put us in the jackpot we are currently in.
That's what happens when you trade for a bunch of rentals.
Youre left with lint in your pockets once the party's over.
I cant make it any more plain than that.