Player Discussion Kevin Fiala

[MNNumbers]

I also listened to the Zulgad Podcast. No information there. He's playing close to the vest, because if he doesn't, the other GMs will get a big advantage.

But, in general, it will pay him to listen to every offer for any player, so I don't mind that.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Dumba this summer, Zuccarello next summer. I believe that both of those returns will (and should) be less than what we'd get for Fiala, and I am ok with that.

That doesn't really help this season.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

That doesn't really help this season.

Trading Dumba doesn't help keep Fiala?

 

[Wabit]

Trading Dumba doesn't help keep Fiala?

Trade Dumba and keep Fiala, this is how MN ends up with a Brodin/Benn top pairing.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Trade Dumba and keep Fiala, this is how MN ends up with a Brodin/Benn top pairing.

That would be a choice as well.

 

[MNRube]

I don’t think Fiala would want to sign here even if we can fit him in. Nothing by either side suggests that is anything more than a pipe dream.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Trading Dumba doesn't help keep Fiala?

Minnesota has 7.3 million in cap space. Moving Dumba means that they gain 6 million. So 13.3 million. Resign Fiala for 7.5 million, drops it down to 5.8 million. Need to sign a goalie. That means what? 2-3 million. Let's be conservative and split it down the middle. 2.5 million. That's 3.3 million now.

Kaprizov - Hartman - Zuccarello
Greenway - Eriksson-Ek - Foligno
Boldy - Gaudreau - Fiala
??? - Jost - Duhaime

Toss up on Dewar (RFA), Shaw (.750 million). Let's say they sign Dewar for 900K, that's 2.4 million.

Spurgeon - ???
Brodin - ???
Goligoski - Merrill
Kulikov

Bring up Addison (795K). Not much left to give Middleton. Do you trade?

Now you have holes in your defense.

 

[AKL]

Minnesota has 7.3 million in cap space. Moving Dumba means that they gain 6 million. So 13.3 million. Resign Fiala for 7.5 million, drops it down to 5.8 million. Need to sign a goalie. That means what? 2-3 million. Let's be conservative and split it down the middle. 2.5 million. That's 3.3 million now.

Kaprizov - Hartman - Zuccarello
Greenway - Eriksson-Ek - Foligno
Boldy - Gaudreau - Fiala
??? - Jost - Duhaime

Toss up on Dewar (RFA), Shaw (.750 million). Let's say they sign Dewar for 900K, that's 2.4 million.

Spurgeon - ???
Brodin - ???
Goligoski - Merrill
Kulikov

Bring up Addison (795K). Not much left to give Middleton. Do you trade?

Now you have holes in your defense.

Yeah, it's about whether you think Fiala is more worth having a hole on defense than Dumba is worth having a hole on offense.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Minnesota has 7.3 million in cap space. Moving Dumba means that they gain 6 million. So 13.3 million. Resign Fiala for 7.5 million, drops it down to 5.8 million. Need to sign a goalie. That means what? 2-3 million. Let's be conservative and split it down the middle. 2.5 million. That's 3.3 million now.

Kaprizov - Hartman - Zuccarello
Greenway - Eriksson-Ek - Foligno
Boldy - Gaudreau - Fiala
??? - Jost - Duhaime

Toss up on Dewar (RFA), Shaw (.750 million). Let's say they sign Dewar for 900K, that's 2.4 million.

Spurgeon - ???
Brodin - ???
Goligoski - Merrill
Kulikov

Bring up Addison (795K). Not much left to give Middleton. Do you trade?

Now you have holes in your defense.

Trade kulikov and bring up mermis. Done.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Trade kulikov and bring up mermis. Done.

Ewww. We can surely do better than that.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Minnesota has 7.3 million in cap space. Moving Dumba means that they gain 6 million. So 13.3 million. Resign Fiala for 7.5 million, drops it down to 5.8 million. Need to sign a goalie. That means what? 2-3 million. Let's be conservative and split it down the middle. 2.5 million. That's 3.3 million now.

Kaprizov - Hartman - Zuccarello
Greenway - Eriksson-Ek - Foligno
Boldy - Gaudreau - Fiala
??? - Jost - Duhaime

Toss up on Dewar (RFA), Shaw (.750 million). Let's say they sign Dewar for 900K, that's 2.4 million.

Spurgeon - ???
Brodin - ???
Goligoski - Merrill
Kulikov

Bring up Addison (795K). Not much left to give Middleton. Do you trade?

Now you have holes in your defense.

$12M+ in dead cap means that we are going to have a hole somewhere on our roster: offense, defense or goaltending. Just pick the one you're most comfortable with.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Ewww. We can surely do better than that.

Mermis as a 7th D is an issue? its a 750k contract to sit there and not play.

Brodin- Addison
Middleton - Spurgeon
Merril-Goligoski
Mermis

isnt pretty due to the bottom 3 names but it will be just fine and probably better than anticipated.

 

[ShortPeter6]

$12M+ in dead cap means that we are going to have a hole somewhere on our roster: offense, defense or goaltending. Just pick the one you're most comfortable with.

This is exactly how I feel. It seems to many people think we should remain cup contenders. If we aren’t going to re sign Fiala we might as well trade Dumba as well. Have a bad year and let some young guys get some time.

 

[IAHockey25]

This is exactly how I feel. It seems to many people think we should remain cup contenders. If we aren’t going to re sign Fiala we might as well trade Dumba as well. Have a bad year and let some young guys get some time.

What if both Boldy and Rossi have 50pts next year?

 

[Digitalbooya]

Mermis as a 7th D is an issue? its a 750k contract to sit there and not play.

Brodin- Addison
Middleton - Spurgeon
Merril-Goligoski
Mermis

isnt pretty due to the bottom 3 names but it will be just fine and probably better than anticipated.

It’s actually the bottom 4 names, but hey we are forced to put a bottom pair guy in the top 4 because of cap space.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

It’s actually the bottom 4 names, but hey we are forced to put a bottom pair guy in the top 4 because of cap space.

ahh spurgeon bugs you that much?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It’s actually the bottom 4 names, but hey we are forced to put a bottom pair guy in the top 4 because of cap space.

We played a 4th liner as a top 6 center last year, so it can be the defense's turn now.

 

[Digitalbooya]

ahh spurgeon bugs you that much?

You know who I'm talking about.

We played a 4th liner as a top 6 center last year, so it can be the defense's turn now.

Are you talking about Rask or Hartman?

 

[keppel146]

You know who I'm talking about.


Are you talking about Rask or Hartman?

Or Gaudreau?

 

[Digitalbooya]

Or Gaudreau?

Trueeee

 

[thestonedkoala]

This is exactly how I feel. It seems to many people think we should remain cup contenders. If we aren’t going to re sign Fiala we might as well trade Dumba as well. Have a bad year and let some young guys get some time.

Because Guerin may be asked to still build a contender out of this team.

 

[Sota Popinski]

I mean Minnesota is kind of pushed against the wall here. If New Jersey doesn't want to give up Mercer and Holtz (and why would they?), Minnesota doesn't have a lot of options. The longer it goes into the off-season, the less value Minnesota will have. Teams know that Minnesota doesn't have the cap space. They either try and trade a player they don't want to trade or a bunch of them or... What?

Stillman gives them a tier B prospect, Johnsson is a 20 goal scorer and gives them another winger in the top 9 without really spending a ton. They get a high second and a gamble next season.

The offseason hasn't even started yet.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I do worry about Fiala’s value knowing that there will be other options like Debrincat and Gaudreau out there.

 

[57special]

I do worry about Fiala’s value knowing that there will be other options like Debrincat and Gaudreau out there.

I find it bizarre that teams are considering moving young players like Chychrun and DeBrincat. Not a great message to send their fans.

 

[thestonedkoala]

I find it bizarre that teams are considering moving young players like Chychrun and DeBrincat. Not a great message to send their fans.

Arizona is probably trying to acquire as many draft picks as possible to do a hard rebuild. Chychrun SHOULD be part of that rebuild, but maybe they don't figure he's in the plans as by the time they are ready to compete, he'll be in his later 20s and on his third contract.

DeBrincat actually makes sense as he's up for a contract renewal and he could be looking for a massive payday.