Player Discussion Keith Yandle: Part III

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Matz03

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Yandle just put up 40+ assists, first time we had that production since Leetch. And that was with mostly 3rd pairing minutes and 2nd pp unit. Put up a bunch of points on PP once he got on the first pp unit, another piece missing from prior years. You have to make every attempt to sign him to a reasonable offer $5.75x6 would be a steal. $6.25x5 seem reasonable if the anchor's are moved. More would be hard to fit though.

Staal, Girardi, Boyle, were all on a clear decline when we signed/resigned them. Those were all bad decisions because the stats were really clear and obvious yet management put up the money. They let Stralman walk for god knows what reason and he signed for less than Girardi.

They need to be bold in retooling this team. Move Staal, Boyle (given), Girardi and that's $15.5 mil saved, or possibly retain $2-3 mil to help move them. Look to move Nash and that's another $7.8, Glass $1.45 and Moore $1.5. That's $26.25 mil that could be cut if you're bold and proactive leaving room for Yandle at a reasonable hit.
 

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Yandle just put up 40+ assists, first time we had that production since Leetch. And that was with mostly 3rd pairing minutes and 2nd pp unit. Put up a bunch of points on PP once he got on the first pp unit, another piece missing from prior years. You have to make every attempt to sign him to a reasonable offer $5.75x6 would be a steal. $6.25x5 seem reasonable if the anchor's are moved. More would be hard to fit though.

Staal, Girardi, Boyle, were all on a clear decline when we signed/resigned them. Those were all bad decisions because the stats were really clear and obvious yet management put up the money. They let Stralman walk for god knows what reason and he signed for less than Girardi.

They need to be bold in retooling this team. Move Staal, Boyle (given), Girardi and that's $15.5 mil saved, or possibly retain $2-3 mil to help move them. Look to move Nash and that's another $7.8, Glass $1.45 and Moore $1.5. That's $26.25 mil that could be cut if you're bold and proactive leaving room for Yandle at a reasonable hit.

3rd pairing minutes?

He averaged 27 less seconds of ice time a game than the #2 dman...Klein. He also average the most PP time a game among all defensemen.
 

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Yandle just put up 40+ assists, first time we had that production since Leetch. And that was with mostly 3rd pairing minutes and 2nd pp unit. Put up a bunch of points on PP once he got on the first pp unit, another piece missing from prior years. You have to make every attempt to sign him to a reasonable offer $5.75x6 would be a steal. $6.25x5 seem reasonable if the anchor's are moved. More would be hard to fit though.

Staal, Girardi, Boyle, were all on a clear decline when we signed/resigned them. Those were all bad decisions because the stats were really clear and obvious yet management put up the money. They let Stralman walk for god knows what reason and he signed for less than Girardi.

They need to be bold in retooling this team. Move Staal, Boyle (given), Girardi and that's $15.5 mil saved, or possibly retain $2-3 mil to help move them. Look to move Nash and that's another $7.8, Glass $1.45 and Moore $1.5. That's $26.25 mil that could be cut if you're bold and proactive leaving room for Yandle at a reasonable hit.

Agreed, but moving those contracts won't be easy. On the other hand, this is a league where David Clarkson was traded for the corpse of Nathan Horton.
 

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3rd pairing minutes?

He averaged 27 less seconds of ice time a game than the #2 dman...Klein.

I think part of the issue is that his even strength minutes weren't where you'd want them to be, it'd be nice if he was a more standard 2nd defenseman behind McDonagh. But I haven't checked his icetime stuff recently
 

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3rd pairing minutes?

He averaged 27 less seconds of ice time a game than the #2 dman...Klein. He also average the most PP time a game among all defensemen.
It depends how you look at it. His toi caught up because of the pp time he got mid season forward. 5-vs-5 he was being used on the 3rd pair.
 

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I think part of the issue is that his even strength minutes weren't where you'd want them to be, it'd be nice if he was a more standard 2nd defenseman behind McDonagh. But I haven't checked his icetime stuff recently

He started getting used more heavily when McDonagh was out and at the end of the year when AV started to realize Staal wasn't cutting it. Considering where his ice time was at before February along with how much power play time he was getting (basically 30 seconds after the first unit was done), the numbers he put up are pretty damn impressive.
 

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Yeah he put up good points during the regular season blah blah blah and then when things actually counted in the playoffs he had 1 point and was a complete train wreck in his own D zone. He hurt the team far more than helped. Give me a break. Peace out Yandle!
 

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Yeah he put up good points during the regular season blah blah blah and then when things actually counted in the playoffs he had 1 point and was a complete train wreck in his own D zone. He hurt the team far more than helped. Give me a break. Peace out Yandle!

With this logic, we might as well get rid of everyone, since they all their fair share of being horrible in our own end that series.
 

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With this logic, we might as well get rid of everyone, since they all their fair share of being horrible in our own end that series.

Disagree..His contract and his play have nothing to do with anyone else.

This is the guy that wants big bucks therefore he's the one that's supposed to be a difference maker and also one that needs to set the example starting in his own D zone.

He fails miserably at the latter..
 

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Yeah he put up good points during the regular season blah blah blah
I think I get why you don't like him. You never have good points.

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Yeah he put up good points during the regular season blah blah blah and then when things actually counted in the playoffs he had 1 point and was a complete train wreck in his own D zone. He hurt the team far more than helped. Give me a break. Peace out Yandle!

I take it you forgot about last season when Yandle played well and put up 11 points in 19 games with a +7.

If you want to get rid of Yandle cause he played bad in this round, then you have to get rid of essentially the whole team...:laugh:

I trust Gorton, and he'll bring Yandle back anyway.
 

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I take it you forgot about last season when Yandle played well and put up 11 points in 19 games with a +7.

If you want to get rid of Yandle cause he played bad in this round, then you have to get rid of essentially the whole team...:laugh:

I trust Gorton, and he'll bring Yandle back anyway.

Here we go with the "blame the whole team" for Yandle's sh**ty play in his own zone stuff :shakehead
 

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No one's saying he didn't play bad, but to act like it was just Yandle himself is hilarious...:laugh:

Not sure why the laugh gif but how many GAA while he was ******* around on the blueline this series? His primary job <DEFENCE> along with his price tag is laughable at best and any team that entertains giving him a contract on his demands will without a doubt regret it..
 

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Not sure why the laugh gif but how many GAA while he was ******* around on the blueline this series? His primary job <DEFENCE> along with his price tag is laughable at best and any team that entertains giving him a contract on his demands will without a doubt regret it..

Yeah, because one bad series means he's all of a sudden a terrible defender...:laugh:

Yandle will get paid as he should, hopefully with us. Hopefully next season he isn't on the 3rd pair like he was for a lot of this year (and still almost put up close to 50 points).
 

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Not sure why the laugh gif but how many GAA while he was ******* around on the blueline this series? His primary job <DEFENCE> along with his price tag is laughable at best and any team that entertains giving him a contract on his demands will without a doubt regret it..
How many goals against averages? I suppose two, Lundqvist and Raanta both had goals against averages while Yandle was on the ice.
 

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Yeah, because one bad series means he's all of a sudden a terrible defender...:laugh:

Yandle will get paid as he should, hopefully with us. Hopefully next season he isn't on the 3rd pair like he was for a lot of this year (and still almost put up close to 50 points).

No Yandle HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BAD DEFENDER! :laugh:
 

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Not wanting to bring back Yandle based on a small sample size of 5 games in which everyone also sucked...

Yeah...there is no logic there.
 

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Not wanting to bring back Yandle based on a small sample size of 5 games in which everyone also sucked...

Yeah...there is no logic there.

A small sample size? He's ALWAYS sucked defensively throughout his entire career. What are you talking about?
 

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He's not only made some horrific dzone mistakes that cost us games but mistakes that I haven't even seen the worst of rookies make let alone at this stage of his career..
You should try to watch more rookies. They're exciting.
 

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I think the Rangers knew what they wanted when they got Yandle. My guess is they got that thing they wanted. Similar to Boyle, the thought was that some offensive push and contribution from the back end is what would tip things in the Rangers favour.
Not to say they have to get rid of him, but where does his contribution to cost (commonly known as value) slot now. Certainly it does not fit in the same slot as it did when he was acquired, and McIlrath and Skjei were just blips on the horizon.
 
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