Speculation: KARLSSON Megathread | Sens offer to EK | Teams given permission to talk extention page 12

[CommonSens]

So where is the official offer?

Hopefully being seriously considered by EK right now.

 

[Tundraman]

All I know is the offer is not $6M. The Sens don't put that kind of offer on the table.

 

[Qward]

Are they checking the cushions for coins?

 

[Fandlauer]

Pierre meant July 1st 2019.

 

[SPF6ty9]

Posted this in the trade thread, but according to a source of Chris Stevenson of the Athletic, the offer will be 8 years 10M per season with some wiggle room. Doesn't mention anything about signing bonuses, trade protection, or contract structure, which are all factors that can dramatically change the overall appeal of a contract.

Why signing Erik Karlsson to a contract extension, sadly,...

Perfect, add an extra million a year and cut some corners elsewhere to make it work *cough* Zack Smith *cough*

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

IMO Tavares to Leafs changes things. Karlsson wants to win and without a first next year he might want out from this division. If we had a first I can understand us sucking for another year and getting another top line prospect asset. But this is difficult.

 

[Sensung]

Posted this in the trade thread, but according to a source of Chris Stevenson of the Athletic, the offer will be 8 years 10M per season with some wiggle room. Doesn't mention anything about signing bonuses, trade protection, or contract structure, which are all factors that can dramatically change the overall appeal of a contract.

Why signing Erik Karlsson to a contract extension, sadly,...

If true, then this has been nothing but a PR move from the beginning, as most expected.

Find out what the market is and then go under it by enough to make sure it's not acceptable, but can be presented as "reasonable" to the casual fan.

 

[Cosmix]

Don't know how things will unfold.

Even though there has been no reports of it, but we have to assume that EK65 and PD have exchanged their contract expectation positions to each other, and have either come to an agreement, or not.

With Doughty signing today, as per the reports, this may have impacted any understanding EK65 and PD had up until those reports of 11 Million for 8 years.

We have to assume there was (or will be) an initial offer, lower than what PD is prepared to rise to, and vice versa for EK65 and his agent.

Question is whether or not EK is willing to take the same as Doughty, IF that is PDs ceiling, or expects more.

Buckle up and prepare for the Dorion PR spin which will likely look eerily similar to the Turris spin.

 

[Korpse]

IMO Tavares to Leafs changes things. Karlsson wants to win and without a first next year he might want out from this division. If we had a first I can understand us sucking for another year and getting another top line prospect asset. But this is difficult.

I honestly dont think Karlsson gives two f***s if we have a 1st in 2019 or not.

 

[Sensung]

Perfect, add an extra million a year and cut some corners elsewhere to make it work *cough* Zack Smith *cough*

Without the structure of a lockout proof bonus laden deal, then 10M per isn't remotely close to being a fair deal with the now firmly established market price.

The Sens will present it as such, but only the gullible will believe the shills.

 

[Cosmix]

IMO Tavares to Leafs changes things. Karlsson wants to win and without a first next year he might want out from this division. If we had a first I can understand us sucking for another year and getting another top line prospect asset. But this is difficult.

It changes nothing wrt the Senators. The first round pick in 2019 likely would not play for the Senators until 2020 or later. They will not pay $11m and will offer less. Karlsson wil submit a $12m + offer. The Senators will state they might have paid $11m if Karlsson offered that but he did not. So a trade had to be made. A la the Turris trade.

Just like in life, if you are poor then you cannot have the nicest things.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Chris Okrainetz (@chrisokrainetz) | Twitter

 

[Korpse]

Chris Okrainetz (@chrisokrainetz) | Twitter

Why do I want to see this?

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Why do I want to see this?

You don’t have to.

Is it necessary to be rude?

 

[Sureves]

There’s no reason for him to not be either signed or traded today.

I’m getting pissed off. Such an inept organization.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Why do I want to see this?

It actually didn’t copy the right tweet.

 

[Korpse]

It actually didn’t copy the right tweet.

Haha I kind of figured. Was just having some fun cause it was a timeline all about JT.

 

[armani]

Day isn't over, and Ottawa didn't sign a jabronie UFA who is a complete waste on ice.

Hoping that means Pierre is busy looking for change underneath Melnyk's cushion to make an offer to Karlsson. But Melnyk carries all his quarters in his fanny pack.

Happy Canada Day everyone!

 

[Sensung]

It actually didn’t copy the right tweet.

What did the tweet say?

 

[Stylizer1]

The fact this isn't already done means Karlsson has no interest in signing.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

What did the tweet say?

It was quoting McKenzie about TBL being interested in EK. It was posted 3hrs ago. Trying to find it again...

 

[SensFactor]

Wow sharks offered Tavares 13 mill a season vs the leafs 11mil. I guess he wanted to go home and play.

 

[Spartachat]

The fact this isn't already done means Karlsson has no interest in signing.

Or that Melnyk is too cheap to give a decent offer.

 

[Sun God Nika]

The fact this isn't already done means Karlsson has no interest in signing.

not disagreeing with you, but Carey Price signed like 2 days after free agency.

 

[Sensung]

The fact this isn't already done means Karlsson has no interest in signing.

WTF are you talking about?