News Article: Karlsson and Dorion/Melnyk didn't talk after November

[coladin]

The odd bit is the stark reversal in a short period of time. 12 months ago people in the room couldn't say enough good things about him in the room. After he's traded, we get conjecture about how he's bad in the room from people outside the room. It's possible the guys inside the room were lying, it's also possible that things changed. I could buy into the latter more so than the former given the personal struggles he had off the ice, but we're then looking at about 6 months with significant contributing circumstances outweighing 6 years of lauded leadership. Add that to the fact that this seems to always be the way it goes down with this team; trade rumours start and the character assassination begins, and you get people starting to doubt the veracity.

Of course people won't throw a current player under the bus, but they typically aren't heaping praise on him they reverse course the second he's out the door. And that's not even truly what's happening, because it's the interpretations not the actions that are extreme. People react emotionally to a sudden and unexpected waiving of Smith, but react more calmly to a drawn out ordeal with Karlsson, and we get some people speculating that the players didn't care as much about Karlsson. Think about that for a second and tell me there isn't a flaw in that logic.

I don't think it is realistic that anyone was going to badmouth Erik Karlsson, the captain, while he was still on the team.

 

[stempniaksen]

I don't think it is realistic that anyone was going to badmouth Erik Karlsson, the captain, while he was still on the team.

There's a monumental difference between no one bad mouthing him and people going out of their way to heap praise on him.

 

[Fandlauer]

 

[coladin]

There's a monumental difference between no one bad mouthing him and people going out of their way to heap praise on him.

Last year? I don't think anyone other than Chabot received any praise last year

 

[Korpse]

I love Erik but it’s time to move on. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

 

[Karl Prime]

Last year? I don't think anyone other than Chabot received any praise last year

In 16-17.

 

[BondraTime]

I love Erik but it’s time to move on. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

How is it continuing? Isn't this his first 1 v 1 interview since the trade that is talking about it?

 

[stempniaksen]

I love Erik but it’s time to move on. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

Victim acts like victim in his first 1 on 1 interview since having his life turned upside down...more at 11.

 

[NorthCoast]

What? The team didn't offer a NMC?

I am shocked.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I love Erik but it’s time to move backwards. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I love Erik but it’s time to move on. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

Obviously there is a ton of interest from people wanting to hear the truth and not the lies from Dorion and co. driving the release of an interview like this.

Count me in.

 

[TheNewEra]

What? The team didn't offer a NMC?

I am shocked.

BUT BUT BUT

i was told by multiple members on this board that the senators put a fair offer forward and that its karlssons fault that he is no longer here

waiting for the same 3-5 posters to do their regular attempt at a spin job

 

[coladin]

In 16-17.

Micklebot said the last 12 months. So last season

 

[coladin]

Obviously there is a ton of interest from people wanting to hear the truth and not the lies from Dorion and co. driving the release of an interview like this.

Count me in.

I think there is enough floating around that supports Karlsson as not being completely truthful as well.

 

[Karl Prime]

Micklebot said the last 12 months. So last season

12 months ago was before the season began, where all we heard was praise about EK and his efforts from the season before.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I think there is enough floating around that supports Karlsson as not being completely truthful as well.

Not really. Karlsson has said that he would have like to have stayed here for his whole career. He also said that he wanted market value. And then he said that he was never in Ottawa's longterm plans and they decided to move on in February.

I don't see how any of those statements aren't truthful.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I think there is enough floating around that supports Karlsson as not being completely truthful as well.

Full on lies and contradictions caught on camera like Dorion though?

 

[Micklebot]

I think there is enough floating around that supports Karlsson as not being completely truthful as well.

I'm sure Karlsson is the one that leaked the fake news to Alex1234 that a decision to trade him was made back in Feb, right?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I love Erik but it’s time to move on. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

"Continuing?" After you get hosed with BS ,, sometimes you want to set the record straight. Not sure that is playing the victim. And besides ,, he was a victim , his team mates were victims and the fans were victims of BS and poor management from Dorion and Melnyk. That's why people are both sad and pissed off.

 

[DueDiligence]

Obviously there is a ton of interest from people wanting to hear the truth and not the lies from Dorion and co. driving the release of an interview like this.

Count me in.

And of course EK will be 100% factual!

 

[BondraTime]

And of course EK will be 100% factual!

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

How many times have management and Melnyk been in this exact situation before?

There's one constant, and it isn't the player.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

And of course EK will be 100% factual!

Compared to Dorion and Melnyk no question. Who would you believe.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Watched the interview, pretty much what I expected:

• First time he realized he might not be in Ottawa forever was when they asked for his no-trade list in October
• Thought "we were gone at the deadline" - imagery made it seem like "we" included Bobby Ryan
• Was made an offer, but was never presented anything he could sign. "Didn't even get close to that"
• Melnyk did reach out at the end of July, Karlsson referred him to his agent. Before then, they hadn't talked in a long time
• His relationship with Melnyk isn't good and isn't bad
• Realizes the fans are upset, he's still upset he got traded from Ottawa too
• Will watch and cheer for the guys on the Sens
• Says the Hoffman situation had no impact on the locker room. "No one knew"

Buuuut most important part, didn't close the door on coming back! Let's get Melnyk out!

Apparently there'll be an extended version posted on Sportsnet soon.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I love Erik but it’s time to move on. Don’t get why he is continuing to play the victim in this.

He was screwed over by Melnyk.

He took less money on his current contract and then he gets jerked around as the time to pay comes up. The parallels with Alfie are undeniable.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

What? The team didn't offer a NMC?

I am shocked.

Sign him to a deal with an NMC and trade him before it kicks in. New team can opt out of respecting the NMC after too.

Karlsson couldn't sign anything they offered since they were so bad at hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him.