Jacob
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Teams probably offered picks for him but Hextall refused. He likes to lurk here and see us get riled up.
Confirmed with Link: Kapanen re-signs for 2 years at $3.2 million AAV
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The Great Mighty Poo
Thank You 59.
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Haha
I’m too active on this site to be Hextall. Look at posters who post three times a year.
BusinessGoose
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Zen Arcade
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Kirk disappeared right around when Hextall got hired....it all adds up....
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Thank You 59.
Turin
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He’s an awful bottom six guy with defensive forwards and he wasn’t gonna get a chance in the top six.
Who knew Ron Hextall was such a huge Malkin stan
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
100%
and I seriously wish Kapanen the best, but I just don't see him making this massive turnaround everyone thinks will happen now that he has been unleashed from the fury of Mike Sullivan. Dude's a dud.
HandshakeLine
A real jerk thing
The move itself is a nothing burger, we're basically back to where we were during the offseason. It's just strange because as bad as Kap could be, there are way worse parts of the bottom 6 that we're not even looking at. That's why people are cynical, I think.
Like great, we got rid of one of 6 badly performing pieces. But there's a guy with almost as much cap hit and just as much term who is tattooed on the lineup sheet, there's a guy who has nearly as much hit and more term that does nothing, we've got a rapidly declining 3C/4C who has visibly regressed in the last few seasons, and then we have some energy guys that do not have energy.
It's like treating you for a headache when you have leprosy.
Like great, we got rid of one of 6 badly performing pieces. But there's a guy with almost as much cap hit and just as much term who is tattooed on the lineup sheet, there's a guy who has nearly as much hit and more term that does nothing, we've got a rapidly declining 3C/4C who has visibly regressed in the last few seasons, and then we have some energy guys that do not have energy.
It's like treating you for a headache when you have leprosy.
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Yeah, this is very true. Plus, sleepy only did this to get Rutta back in the lineup, not because he finally wanted to make a change.The move itself is a nothing burger, we're basically back to where we were during the offseason. It's just strange because as bad as Kap could be, there are way worse parts of the bottom 6 that we're not even looking at. That's why people are cynical, I think.
Like great, we got rid of one of 6 badly performing pieces. But there's a guy with almost as much cap hit and just as much term who is tattooed on the lineup sheet, there's a guy who has nearly as much hit and more term that does nothing, we've got a rapidly declining 3C/4C who has visibly regressed in the last few seasons, and then we have some energy guys that do not have energy.
It's like treating you for a headache when you have leprosy.
The whole Kapanen "experiment" was just a disaster.
The trade was an absolute disaster and I thought him and Johnsson were about the same middling overpaid players that the Leafs desperately needed to get rid of. And for some reason JR overpaid like crazy for him. Probably the worst trade JR did looking at it beforehand since noone knew the Brassard trade would turn out that bad.
And then the contract he signed was almost just as bad. He had already showed what a flawed player he was and should be only considered a fast pking bottom 6 player and there wasn't much upside left and still he got 3.2 for 2 years which made his value basically nothing from the moment he signed. He was only ever worth 1.5-2 million with what he had shown so in the end getting him off the wage bill was a win. Could he have brought back a 5th-7th? yeah, but that was about it.
Just so frustrating pissing away a 1st rounder on such a player....
And I blame JR for most of it. He was just terrible after the last cup....
The trade was an absolute disaster and I thought him and Johnsson were about the same middling overpaid players that the Leafs desperately needed to get rid of. And for some reason JR overpaid like crazy for him. Probably the worst trade JR did looking at it beforehand since noone knew the Brassard trade would turn out that bad.
And then the contract he signed was almost just as bad. He had already showed what a flawed player he was and should be only considered a fast pking bottom 6 player and there wasn't much upside left and still he got 3.2 for 2 years which made his value basically nothing from the moment he signed. He was only ever worth 1.5-2 million with what he had shown so in the end getting him off the wage bill was a win. Could he have brought back a 5th-7th? yeah, but that was about it.
Just so frustrating pissing away a 1st rounder on such a player....
And I blame JR for most of it. He was just terrible after the last cup....
HandshakeLine
A real jerk thing
On the one hand, I get why we re-acquired him; on paper, Kap is exactly the kind of player this team claims it needs-- fast, tenacious, good for 40 points, can pk, etc.
On the other hand, the coach didn't like him, and there wasn't really a clear role for him, so why re-sign him?
I think also, with Kap gone, we should really realize that this is no longer a "fast" team by any stretch of the imagination.
On the other hand, the coach didn't like him, and there wasn't really a clear role for him, so why re-sign him?
I think also, with Kap gone, we should really realize that this is no longer a "fast" team by any stretch of the imagination.
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SomeDude
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Nice try, Ron. You spend too much time posting here that there is no time to be a GM.
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Our 1st round draft pick, used to acquire Kappy (Sam Steel, surprisingly real and not a porn name)
Vs Kappy
As always, pissing away assets and losing every trade. Keep it up pens!
Vs Kappy
As always, pissing away assets and losing every trade. Keep it up pens!
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BusinessGoose
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Well there is a timeline where we had a greater than 0% chance drafting him
And then there is the timeline we are living in
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And the Penguins could've drafted Pastrnak with the pick they used on Kapanen. /shrug
There are almost always gonna be situations where you look back and realize a team made the "wrong" pick--hell, even Staal over guys like Kessel, Toews, and Backstrom was questionable. You're just gonna annoy yourself by going back and looking over drafts with the benefit of hindsight.
Although, the way this team took Pouliot over the obvious consensus pick in Forsberg, or even Trouba if the team wanted to stick to NA blueliners like they adored under Shero, will always be good for a hearty laugh.
There are almost always gonna be situations where you look back and realize a team made the "wrong" pick--hell, even Staal over guys like Kessel, Toews, and Backstrom was questionable. You're just gonna annoy yourself by going back and looking over drafts with the benefit of hindsight.
Although, the way this team took Pouliot over the obvious consensus pick in Forsberg, or even Trouba if the team wanted to stick to NA blueliners like they adored under Shero, will always be good for a hearty laugh.
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And the Penguins could've drafted Pastrnak with the pick they used on Kapanen. /shrug
There are almost always gonna be situations where you look back and realize a team made the "wrong" pick--hell, even Staal over guys like Kessel, Toews, and Backstrom was questionable. You're just gonna annoy yourself by going back and looking over drafts with the benefit of hindsight.
Although, the way this team took Pouliot over the obvious consensus pick in Forsberg, or even Trouba if the team wanted to stick to NA blueliners like they adored under Shero, will always be good for a hearty laugh.
Yeah, I think there's a clear difference between complaining about not drafting a player who ended up becoming better using hindsight and not drafting a player who even at that time was considered a much better prospect.
Complaining about passing on Pastrnak/Kucherov/Gaudreau with our 1st picks is dumb. Calling Shero a moron for drafting Pouliot over Forsberg is spot on.
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Cost a perfectly good 1st round pick to re-acquire because JR was off his Kessel high.
Total dumpster fire of a player. Sully, yadda yadda, let's see if he sticks in the league for a decade and does anything of note.
He, Tangradi and Sprong can share notes on promising uselessness.
Total dumpster fire of a player. Sully, yadda yadda, let's see if he sticks in the league for a decade and does anything of note.
He, Tangradi and Sprong can share notes on promising uselessness.
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Kapanen scored 30pt in 40gp the first year he was brought in when playing with Malkin. So no, it wasn't a total disaster. That pick ended up a nothing anyway.
Hextall signing him to the 2 year deal was the mistake. This whole debacle is on Hextall and Sullivan, much more so than Kapanen.
The Penguins hindsight lineup is quite good.And the Penguins could've drafted Pastrnak with the pick they used on Kapanen. /shrug
There are almost always gonna be situations where you look back and realize a team made the "wrong" pick--hell, even Staal over guys like Kessel, Toews, and Backstrom was questionable. You're just gonna annoy yourself by going back and looking over drafts with the benefit of hindsight.
Although, the way this team took Pouliot over the obvious consensus pick in Forsberg, or even Trouba if the team wanted to stick to NA blueliners like they adored under Shero, will always be good for a hearty laugh.
Sigh, that is the WORST excuse EVER when discussing a trade: "All those 5 first round picks we gave up for Tanner Glass doesn't matter cause they didn't turn out great anyways"
If you fail to understand how assinine that reasoning sounds you do lack some mental capacity...
If you fail to understand how assinine that reasoning sounds you do lack some mental capacity...
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
My favorite hindsight pick is how we picked Dominik Simon 2 picks away from Kaprizov.
