Prospect Info: K'Andre Miller (D) - Part III

[Rongomania]

Yes, that is very likely.

I cannot see a scenario where K'Andre & Nils stay in the NCAA & SEL respectively and not come over next year.

In saying that, can I just add how LIGHTS OUT Hartford is going to be the season after this one with those two guys potentially joining ... wowza

 

[Edge]

Folks on the main board questioning Miller's speed and skating makes my head hurt.

Yeah, if you have some questions and reservations about Miller, I can understand that. But speed and skating shouldn't be driving those concerns.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I would think their list is Trouba, Fox, DeAngelo............with the thinking that DeAngelo goes in expansion and Lundqvist is ready by then to replace him.

or TDA is dealt before expansion.

Wait TDA is going via expansion? Before we even really know what we have in him?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Wait TDA is going via expansion? Before we even really know what we have in him?

We can protect 3 D-men.

Trouba and Skjei are locks for 2 of those slots. That leaves 1 and DeAngelo is the easy choice there. Fox, Reunanen, Rykov, Lundkvist, Miller will all be exempt

 

[NYSPORTS]

Not talking about him as a prospect. Talking about him as a 23 year old stud offensive righty dman that can skate and came light years in terms of his defensive play. People should be going Gaga over this guy and most pundits forget he’s even on the team let alone in our top 4. He should be in PEN on our second pairing for a long time.

I thought he played well last year. These other kids on defense, they might take as long as DeAngelo to show something. I hope it’s sooner but some of these kids are extremely young.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

We can protect 3 D-men.

Trouba and Skjei are locks for 2 of those slots. That leaves 1 and DeAngelo is the easy choice there. Fox, Reunanen, Rykov, Lundkvist, Miller will all be exempt

Unless I'm mistaken, Hajek would need to be protected as well. I wouldn't be so sure he won't play his way into being kept over ADA.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Unless I'm mistaken, Hajek would need to be protected as well. I wouldn't be so sure he won't play his way into being kept over ADA.

Hajek has a long way to go before he's better than DeAngelo.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Hajek has a long way to go before he's better than DeAngelo.

DeAngelo has yet to play a full season in the regular rotation.

People are a) attributing a LOT to an impressive showing in a short amount of games (none of which mattered and most of which they lost), b) focusing almost exclusively on his offensive prowess while glossing over lingering deficiencies in his defensive game, and c) ignoring a long track record that's quite checkered.

Hajek has more to prove, no question, especially after the rough reports from HFD. But I'm still very much from Missouri as regards Tony, as well.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

DeAngelo has yet to play a full season in the regular rotation.

People are a) attributing a LOT to an impressive showing in a short amount of games (none of which mattered and most of which they lost), b) focusing almost exclusively on his offensive prowess while glossing over lingering deficiencies in his defensive game, and c) ignoring a long track record that's quite checkered.

Hajek has more to prove, no question, especially after the rough reports from HFD. But I'm still very much from Missouri as regards Tony, as well.

DeAngelo is a better player now than Hajek. That's all that matters. In the next 2 years, Hajek needs to take some serious leaps in his development to pass DeAngelo on the depth chart.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

DeAngelo is a better player now than Hajek. That's all that matters. In the next 2 years, Hajek needs to take some serious leaps in his development to pass DeAngelo on the depth chart.

Right!

And these were my exact words:

I wouldn't be so sure he won't play his way into being kept over ADA.

 

[Machinehead]

One of these things is NOT like the others

Smith has probably played more RD than LD.

 

[Levitate]

DeAngelo has yet to play a full season in the regular rotation.

People are a) attributing a LOT to an impressive showing in a short amount of games (none of which mattered and most of which they lost), b) focusing almost exclusively on his offensive prowess while glossing over lingering deficiencies in his defensive game, and c) ignoring a long track record that's quite checkered.

Hajek has more to prove, no question, especially after the rough reports from HFD. But I'm still very much from Missouri as regards Tony, as well.

his defensive deficiencies are overblown and only a focus of people who don't understand defense in the modern NHL

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

his defensive deficiencies are overblown and only a focus of people who don't understand defense in the modern NHL

Mkay. I give up. He's awesome. They should trade Trouba and give ADA his contract.

EDIT: the whole ADA debate is maddening to me, because people so gush over him and I'm only responding to temper expectations based on what I perceive to be very real deficiencies that could still use work. It's not that I don't see some of the awesome stuff he did last year; it's just that he's got a ways to go to prove he's an all situations 2nd pair defenseman in the long run, and yet people are saying things like he's already better than Trouba.

I mean, listen, I've always loved Buch as a player, but I'm the first one to admit he's got to show a lot more of what we saw late last season before he's firmly established as a top-6 forward, much less a top-line guy. People love ADA for his feistiness (and in some cases, I'm guessing his politics) and thus much of the board mostly penciling him in as a stud offensive defenseman; yet, very few here are treating Buch the same way, despite the fact that they're the same age and Buch has achieved more to this point (and without being moved twice).

 

[Kovalev27]

We’ve got 45 lefty D prospects in the system. If it came down to it there’s no way I’d protect Hajek over DeAngelo. I might protect him over Skjei but certainly not over DeAngelo.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

We’ve got 45 lefty D prospects in the system. If it came down to it there’s no way I’d protect Hajek over DeAngelo. I might protect him over Skjei but certainly not over DeAngelo.

A fair point.

Though if they're both worthy of being protected, it behooves you to trade one if you can...

 

[Vitto79]

Wait TDA is going via expansion? Before we even really know what we have in him?

It’s likely him , Hajek or Lindgren IMO but let’s see how the next few yrs go

 

[Vitto79]

We’ve got 45 lefty D prospects in the system. If it came down to it there’s no way I’d protect Hajek over DeAngelo. I might protect him over Skjei but certainly not over DeAngelo.

If Lundkvist looks legit that’s 4 RD if Trouba and Fox are locks

 

[Leetch3]

there is zero chance they expose ADA in the expansion draft...its 2 years away, if by that point he isn't locked in as part of the long term future he'll be dealt.

they will protect trouba, skjei and ADA...it would mean exposing hajek & lindgren. it would suck to lose either for nothing but given our depth on LHD in the system there is a good chance that there won't be room for them anyway so its not the big of a deal...if either guy progresses enough in the next 2 years that they are keepers than I think its more likely that we trade skjei than move ADA

that said I think we'll lose fast or maybe lemieux.

 

[kovazub94]

Not talking about him as a prospect. Talking about him as a 23 year old stud offensive righty dman that can skate and came light years in terms of his defensive play. People should be going Gaga over this guy and most pundits forget he’s even on the team let alone in our top 4. He should be in PEN on our second pairing for a long time.

Why did you capitalize gaga?

 

[kovazub94]

If the Rangers were sure about ADA, they wouldn't have trade potentially two 2nd round picks to acquire Fox rather than wait to sign Fox as a free agent next August.

If the Rangers were not sure about ADA they wouldn’t buyout Shattenkirk.

 

[Edge]

Reports to this point have been that the Rangers are high, and remain high, on DeAngelo.

I don’t think it’s a Fox/ADA debate, just like it wasn’t a Pionk/ADA debate. It’s simply a matter of getting high-skill, young talent under contract, and having the necessary assets in order to do so.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It’s likely him , Hajek or Lindgren IMO but let’s see how the next few yrs go

Admittedly we know nothing about Lindgren but if it's ADA or him, as of this moment I don't know how you choose Lindgren.

 

[bobbop]

There’s no real value in tying one’s self in a knot over a problem that won’t manifest itself for two years. I could see scenarios where any of D’Angelo, Hajak or Skeji are left unprotected. There’s a lot of hockey to be played and the development of players who do not require protection will be an important factor. More likely is that if all three are established NHL defensemen by then, one would be traded before any expansion draft.

 

[romba]

Mkay. I give up. He's awesome. They should trade Trouba and give ADA his contract.

EDIT: the whole ADA debate is maddening to me, because people so gush over him and I'm only responding to temper expectations based on what I perceive to be very real deficiencies that could still use work. It's not that I don't see some of the awesome stuff he did last year; it's just that he's got a ways to go to prove he's an all situations 2nd pair defenseman in the long run, and yet people are saying things like he's already better than Trouba.

I mean, listen, I've always loved Buch as a player, but I'm the first one to admit he's got to show a lot more of what we saw late last season before he's firmly established as a top-6 forward, much less a top-line guy. People love ADA for his feistiness (and in some cases, I'm guessing his politics) and thus much of the board mostly penciling him in as a stud offensive defenseman; yet, very few here are treating Buch the same way, despite the fact that they're the same age and Buch has achieved more to this point (and without being moved twice).

Lol deep breaths!

Honestly though, Tony D’s vision, patience, and how with a quick flick of his wrist he slings phenomenal, crisp, tape to tape passes- its really exciting to watch and likely why folks might be prone to rating him higher.

 

[GoAwayGiannone]

There’s no real value in tying one’s self in a knot over a problem that won’t manifest itself for two years. I could see scenarios where any of D’Angelo, Hajak or Skeji are left unprotected. There’s a lot of hockey to be played and the development of players who do not require protection will be an important factor. More likely is that if all three are established NHL defensemen by then, one would be traded before any expansion draft.

That kind of thinking bobbop, is why the environment is where it is today, with global warming and the melting of the ice caps, mass algae bloom etc. Therefor, not worrying about TDA now = global warming. Keep up, sheeple.