I thought all that counted was scoring? Or does what you said only apply to players not named Schroeder? Or better yet, is Schroeder supposed to turn Weise and Sestito into goal scorers?
He was putting up comparable numbers to Cody in the AHL (without spending alot of time - if any - in the 1st unit PP).He's going to learn nothing down there, he's already spent nearly 4 years there.
cool. vancouver has another career minor leaguer
Just like Hodgson and Grabner, better move him.
He's going to learn nothing down there, he's already spent nearly 4 years there. Sorry he couldnt produce on the 4th line, and got shaky on the 1st unit when he gets his actual one minute of ice time. I dont think he fits on your team short term or long term, hopefully you guys move him at the deadline. Would be in the better interest of all parties involved.
You know, Byron Ritchie just finished a pretty good season in Switzerland...
Wonder if that's what the coaching staff has told him to do - use his linemates more rather than trying to do it himself? He does seem willing to follow their advice with respect to play without the puck - so it's not he's not coachable.He needs to learn to be more aggressive with his shot. He's still a passive, pass first player, who is limiting his own effectiveness by passing up on shots. He's not Henrik Sedin (although you could argue outside of the twins he probably is the best passer on the Canucks roster).
Jordan has to shoot the puck and shoot it often. It's not like he absolutely lights the AHL on fire either. I don't think his play earned the demotion to the 4th line, nor do I think they should have sent him down based on merit, but he's got a long way to go before he's an NHL regular anywhere. And to me the biggest issue his him not shooting.
He was putting up comparable numbers to Cody in the AHL (without spending alot of time - if any - in the 1st unit PP).
Indeed.He has a good shot, but "you don't score on 100% of the shots you don't take".
He was putting up numbers expected of a rookie playmaker wedged into a 4th line. What has Vancouver's record been since AV broke up the Raymond-JS-Hansen line -- your 3rd line that was producing like a first line? I can guarantee it's abysmal. If Schroeder was the issue, why once he was factored out of the lineup have the Canucks been doing worse? Shouldn't they be doing better if he was negatively affecting the team?
What happened was Kesler came back and AV broke up the Ray-JS-Hansen line to better accommodate Kesler. As a result he fixed something that wasn't broken and ruined that 3rd line, didnt make Kesler anymore productive in ES minutes as a result, and disrupted the development of Schroeder who was adjusting nicely while Vancouver was winning games. What puzzled me most is that AV never went back to that 3rd line. After Kesler got hurt you'd think since that opened up another center spot that would potentially give Schroeder a promotion, instead the next game he gets a demotion and a natural winger gets thrown in his center spot? Talk about a mind-f@&#.
That wasn't the issue though IMO.
It wasn't that they moved Raymond to C, it's that they put Jordan on the 4th line.
Too many minutes for Lappy was the issue.
The clear cut perfect spot for Jordan was in an offensive role with Kassian and Booth. We didn't see it, and we better not see Ebbett there or I'm gonna flip.
You're letting you're fandom of Schroeder cloud your judgement here IMO. We're all pissed he didn't get a good enough look with Kassian and Booth (almost seemed like a perfect spot for him), but he'll be back, I'm sure of it. And judging by how Jordan has handled things so far in his career, I don't doubt he'll adhere to their new goals they've probably given him and be much better moving forward.
I'm a big Schroeder fan too, but you're assessment that he has nothing left to learn is false.
I would have preferred to see Sestito scratched and Sweatt brought up to see some speed on that 4th line.
Or the Canucks sign Gordon and give him a shot.
He is signed. Or did you mean Robb?