Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin: To C Or Not to C

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[montreal]

Looks quicker but still see some issues with his defensive play, although as long as he stays on the win he won't be exposed like he was last year.

 

[Andrei79]

He's using the dots and passing lanes wayyy better than last year. It's not that surprising, he's a winger through and through, putting him at center screws with his offense.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

He's gonna score 70+ pts, book it

 

[cujo1117]

He's gonna score 70+ pts, book it

he aint kovalev ...55 to 60 i would be more then happy

 

[26Mats]

He's gonna score 70+ pts, book it

That depends on 2 things
1) who he plays with
2) can he turn his flash into actual scoring chances, instead of stickhandling and skating fast around aimlessly (I think he can)

 

[G0bias]

I was hard on him last season, with reason, so far he's looking alot better.
Biggest difference is he seems to give a shit, atleast when he has the puck . Hopefully this continues into the regular season.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Getting to play in a position he belongs to has done wonders to him, who woulda thought. What's really encouraging though is that him and Kotkaniemi seem to be a great fit together. Bodes extremely well for the future.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

That depends on 2 things
1) who he plays with
2) can he turn his flash into actual scoring chances, instead of stickhandling and skating fast around aimlessly (I think he can)

I don’t expect much from LaFlamme.

If you could transplant some of Gallagher’s heart into his body then he would be alright.

But he’s the golden boy, anointed by our moron GM, so I expect he’ll continue stickhandling and skating fast aimlessly, and the Antichambre crew will felate him thoroughly.

 

[groovejuice]

If not Sergachev, I don't think Yzerman liquidates Drouin for a cheaper return. It's very possible Yzerman keeps Drouin and explores other options trying to prepare for the cap and expansion draft. What do the Habs trade instead of Sergachev that other teams could not easily match?

So you're using Bergevin's ineptitude to defend his ineptitude? I know you're trying to be balanced, and I admire that, but Bergevin has bungled virtually every interaction with his top players. This filters down to the trades.

Subban, Sergachev, Markov, Radulov, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty.... They're all gone and it's arguable not a one was adequately replaced.

 

[MXD]

My biggest worry about Drouin is whether he can be that 70 pts player (which a totally reasonable expectation considering his skill level) on a good team.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

My expectations for him are just as low as my desire for him to do well.

It's tank time, so he can **** the bed over and over, for all I care.

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

He's gonna score 70+ pts, book it

If he hits 70pts, it's because we have a VERY good PP... or if he plays with Gallagher for the full season and Gallagher scores 30g+ again. Also whoever that centers him scores at least 20 goals. To hit 70 pts, he need to score a lot and generate a lot of goals for his linemates.

He has the skill to hit 70 pts.. but I don't thik we have a team or players that will help him achieve that.

 

[Habs Halifax]

So you're using Bergevin's ineptitude to defend his ineptitude? I know you're trying to be balanced, and I admire that, but Bergevin has bungled virtually every interaction with his top players. This filters down to the trades.

Subban, Sergachev, Markov, Radulov, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty.... They're all gone and it's arguable not a one was adequately replaced.

No, I'm talking about the idea that Drouin could of been acquired for cheap being ridiculous. Weather you like Bergevin or not is not the discussion.

 

[groovejuice]

No, I'm talking about the idea that Drouin could of been acquired for cheap being ridiculous. Weather you like Bergevin or not is not the discussion.

Did anyone suggest cheap? Or just less than Sergachev? That's a big difference.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Did anyone suggest cheap? Or just less than Sergachev? That's a big difference.

Anything less than Sergachev (from what we had at the time), would of not gotten Drouin. The idea we could of gotten Drouin and also kept Sergachev is not something I believe was a possibility. Say what you want to say about Yzerman's situation and how their relationship might of been affected, I don't see Yzerman trading him for cheap.

 

[groovejuice]

Anything less than Sergachev (from what we had at the time), would of not gotten Drouin. The idea we could of gotten Drouin and also kept Sergachev is not something I believe was a possibility. Say what you want to say about Yzerman's situation and how their relationship might of been affected, I don't see Yzerman trading him for cheap.

Again, is ANYTHING less than Sergachev cheap? It's my belief the price was too high and we traded a position of weakness for a position of strength.

It has nothing to do with my personal feelings about Bergevin, which I've made extremely clear. I just think it was a foolish trade and we overpaid.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Again, is ANYTHING less than Sergachev cheap? It's my belief the price was too high and we traded a position of weakness for a position of strength.

It has nothing to do with my personal feelings about Bergevin, which I've made extremely clear. I just think it was a foolish trade and we overpaid.

Don't concentrate too much on the word cheap. I am pretty sure you understand my point and this has nothing to do with pro-Bergevin or anti-Bergevin. The idea we could of acquired Drouin without Sergachev is not something I believe was a possibility

 

[groovejuice]

Don't concentrate too much on the word cheap. I am pretty sure you understand my point and this has nothing to do with pro-Bergevin or anti-Bergevin. The idea we could of acquired Drouin without Sergachev is not something I believe was a possibility

Then you don't make the deal. It's pretty simple.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Then you don't make the deal. It's pretty simple.

I'm on the fence about it. I think both are very good young players. Drouin is more established so we will have to wait to see how good Sergachev is. Top 4D or top 2D. I do think Drouin is the only game breaking talent we have and not so sure Sergachev would be on our team.

 

[groovejuice]

I'm on the fence about it. I think both are very good young players. Drouin is more established so we will have to wait to see how good Sergachev is. Top 4D or top 2D. I do think Drouin is the only game breaking talent we have and not so sure Sergachev would be on our team.

If he's the only game breaking talent, then that makes the Radulov folly and the dumb Galchenyuk trade even worse. Picking players randomly would have a better result.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If he's the only game breaking talent, then that makes the Radulov folly and the dumb Galchenyuk trade even worse. Picking players randomly would have a better result.

Your focus is on Bergevin and I get that. However my focus is on Drouin.

 

[groovejuice]

Your focus is on Bergevin and I get that. However my focus is on Drouin.

They do go together, you know.

 

[Habs Halifax]

They do go together, you know.

Sure but we are talking about two different angles where you replied to my post with Bergevin hate. I was simply talking about Drouin's value and that I don't believe we could of acquired him if Sergachev was not on the table.

 

[crosbyshow]

If he's the only game breaking talent, then that makes the Radulov folly and the dumb Galchenyuk trade even worse. Picking players randomly would have a better result.

Bergevin have made some really bad moves but the Radulov one.....

I mean...nobody wanted to sign Radulov 2 years ago.....nobody....

Who signed him ?

There was Bergevin and Patrick roy....and sakic did not wanted Radu....

The only reason why Habs fans enjoyed Radu for a year ...was because of....Bergevin.

No Bergevin..= no Radu at all.... and he chose money (tx) over Mtl at the end......

Bergevin is not good but he made some good moves and Radu is one of them.

As for Drouin...at least he is an exciting player on the wing.....and I think that this team really needs exciting players.....because the team is so boring..