Prospect Info: Jonathan Dahlén, Timrå IK | Allsvenskan U-20 MVP 2017

[Petrichor]

Whether he turns out or not, this is the best Benning trade so far.

Easily in our top 5 prospect rankings right now.

 

[GetFocht]

Whether he turns out or not, this is the best Benning trade so far.

Easily in our top 5 prospect rankings right now.

I would argue that Baertschi or Granlund were one of his best trades. 2nd round pick for a top 6 winger and an AHL player for a 20 goal scorer.

 

[rune74]

4 goals today!

That's awesome.

 

[Petrichor]

I would argue that Baertschi or Granlund were one of his best trades. 2nd round pick for a top 6 winger and an AHL player for a 20 goal scorer.

In terms of value at the time, Granlund for Shinkaruk is definitely not Benning's best trade. Shinkaruk had a lot more value at the time. His linear performance is similar to Goldobin at the time of the trade and that was a 1st rounder value.

Was Granlund worth a 1st rounder at the time of the trade? Absolutely not.

Granlund was on the cusp of losing his roster spot in Calgary because younger guys were surpassing him. Further, if Calgary couldn't fit him on the roster (which they couldn't), he would have hit the waiver wire.

So the fact Benning gave away a former 1st rounder close to PPG in the AHL for someone set to his the waiver wire is a poor trade at the time.

The 20 goals Granlund has at the moment is great, but that's overshadowed by unsustainable shooting percentage and the boatload of ice time with the twins.

 

[StrictlyCommercial]

I would argue that Baertschi or Granlund were one of his best trades. 2nd round pick for a top 6 winger and an AHL player for a 20 goal scorer.

Bieksa for a 2nd.

 

[Bgav]

4 goals today incredible

 

[keslerburrows]

Need highlights plz and thx

 

[M2Beezy]

4 goals holy ****

 

[Boose Brudreau]

In terms of value at the time, Granlund for Shinkaruk is definitely not Benning's best trade. Shinkaruk had a lot more value at the time. His linear performance is similar to Goldobin at the time of the trade and that was a 1st rounder value.

Was Granlund worth a 1st rounder at the time of the trade? Absolutely not.

Granlund was on the cusp of losing his roster spot in Calgary because younger guys were surpassing him. Further, if Calgary couldn't fit him on the roster (which they couldn't), he would have hit the waiver wire.

So the fact Benning gave away a former 1st rounder close to PPG in the AHL for someone set to his the waiver wire is a poor trade at the time.

The 20 goals Granlund has at the moment is great, but that's overshadowed by unsustainable shooting percentage and the boatload of ice time with the twins.

I love it when people talk about the value a player has as if it's a number printed on the back of their jersey. The reality is, NHL prospects are hard to value and the market for trading them is about as liquid as cold peanut butter. There was obviously something about Shinkaruk that Benning et al didn't like, his name was out there a lot. Hard to argue now that he was wrong; shinkaruk's stock is plummeting big time.

Hard to argue that he was wrong about Granlund too, he's made the most of his opportunity this year.

 

[Cupless44]

Really?

Now we have people needing to bash Granlund in the Dahlen thread too? On the day he scores 4 goals?

Awesome

 

[Canucks LB]

Leave granlund out of this ****ing thread. I dont wanna hear any more of his ******** bad player fantasys that people have here.

 

[Wo Yorfat]

What are you talking about?

 

[M2Beezy]

Really?

Now we have people needing to bash Granlund in the Dahlen thread too? On the day he scores 4 goals?

Awesome

I know right. Its a joke esp as Granlund keeps playing well and scoring goals. But anyways just loving this Burrows trade for Dahlen right now. Looks like if hes carefully groomed we could have another GEM on our hands

 

[krutovsdonut]

5 point game last week, 4 goals this week. wow.

 

[Tim Calhoun]

5 point game last week, 4 goals this week. wow.

Those weren't in the same league. He is playing in the SuperElit (U-20 junior league) now, which he should be expected to dominate.

 

[Zombotron]

I didn't want to be That Guy, but yeah. He's been loaded to Timrå's J-20 team.


He can go ahead and score 4+ every game, of course. I would enjoy that.

 

[rune74]

I didn't want to be That Guy, but yeah. He's been loaded to Timrå's J-20 team.



He can go ahead and score 4+ every game, of course.

Why was he sent there?

 

[Zombotron]

Why was he sent there?

Timrå IK was eliminated from the Allsvenskan playoffs

 

[krutovsdonut]

Those weren't in the same league. He is playing in the SuperElit (U-20 junior league) now, which he should be expected to dominate.

yep. and i get that he's playing tier two men's league not the sel. he's still impressing me.

 

[F A N]

I think this trade is a very good one for Benning. Not only did he get Dahlen, who probably is worth a late first in this year's draft, he traded Burrows to a team that was willing to give him a 2 year extension. Like the Bieksa trade, this is the type of trade that should be celebrated not just for the fact that Benning got a good return but the fact that the trade worked out really well for the players.

In terms of value at the time, Granlund for Shinkaruk is definitely not Benning's best trade. Shinkaruk had a lot more value at the time. His linear performance is similar to Goldobin at the time of the trade and that was a 1st rounder value.

Was Granlund worth a 1st rounder at the time of the trade? Absolutely not.

...

So the fact Benning gave away a former 1st rounder close to PPG in the AHL for someone set to his the waiver wire is a poor trade at the time.

The 20 goals Granlund has at the moment is great, but that's overshadowed by unsustainable shooting percentage and the boatload of ice time with the twins.

I sometimes wonder if some posters are simply delusional when assessing Benning's competency. Shinkaruk is worth a first round pick? Benning should of asked for a first for Lack so he ends up with a 2nd rather than 3rd? If Shinkaruk was worth a first, I'm pretty sure Benning would have traded him long before he made the Granlund trade.

Granlund was on the cusp of losing his roster spot in Calgary because younger guys were surpassing him. Further, if Calgary couldn't fit him on the roster (which they couldn't), he would have hit the waiver wire.

Oh here we go again. Granlund was on the cusp of losing his roster spot because they wanted to move their former #4 overall pick to C. They even let Colborne go rather than qualify him after he had a 19 goal 44 point season.

 

[rune74]

Timrå IK was eliminated from the Allsvenskan playoffs

Yeah got that....why didn't we sign him and bring him across?

 

[Zombotron]

Come to Utica. Cahm.

 

[Zombotron]

Yeah got that....why didn't we sign him and bring him across?

Oh. I don't know. Anyone?

 

[Yggdrasil]

man he needs to play in Utica right now to get used to the NA ice rink and AHL is harder than SEL...

 

[RobertKron]

Leave granlund out of this ****ing thread. I dont wanna hear any more of his ******** bad player fantasys that people have here.

Should probably just lock it up.