Jon Cooper

[LTIR Trickery]

I've written nobody because I think Yzerman won't fire him.
So, nobody will replace him cause he'll be our HC during the next season.

He won't and there is no reason to.

 

[Todd1a]

cooper stinks vegas lit them up last night

 

[LightningStrikes]

cooper stinks vegas lit them up last night

Yeah this is really concerning... just compare the one game Vegas has played against Washington so far to our seven games against them:

Matchup	SOG	SOG diff.	GF	ESG	PPG
Vegas	34-28	+6	6	5	1
TB (G1)	21-32	-11	2	1	1
TB (G2)	35-37	-2	2	0	2
TB (G3)	23-38	-15	4	2	2
TB (G4)	20-38	-18	4	3	1
TB (G5)	22-30	-8	3	3	0
TB (G6)	24-34	-10	0	0	0
TB (G7)	29-23	+6	0	0	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

In this one game Vegas has done what we have managed just once: Outshoot the Capitals. All other six games Vasy got shelled and the team got pinned in their own zone all game.
Vegas had 5 ESG. The closest we came was 3 ESG.

So a bunch of misfits and nerds (I exaggerate) have done done what the league's greatest offense hasn't done all series. Oops.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Yea I just dont think our team worked hard enough in those final 2 games. We were playing hard but we werent going to the difficult areas. We werent keeping our feet moving in the ozone. Bad passes by our top players too. Just not on the same page. I blame Coop for this and obviously the players. It is just weird because we looked like a different team vs the Caps than against Boston and NJ. It made no sense.

 

[Todd1a]

Yea I just dont think our team worked hard enough in those final 2 games. We were playing hard but we werent going to the difficult areas. We werent keeping our feet moving in the ozone. Bad passes by our top players too. Just not on the same page. I blame Coop for this and obviously the players. It is just weird because we looked like a different team vs the Caps than against Boston and NJ. It made no sense.

I'm for firing cooper his system sinks give another coach a crack with this line up we have

 

[CupsOverCash]

I'm for firing cooper his system sinks give another coach a crack with this line up we have

Ill give Coop another year because there really is nobody available who is better. I dont like AV personally. I wouldnt mind possibly bringing up our Syracuse coach late in the year like Pittsburgh did with Sullivan and we did with Coop. Sometimes these things jump start a team. Especially if we bring up a couple of those young players. If we have another February like we did, maybe we move on? Im just not quite there yet because of what else is out there.

 

[Todd1a]

Ill give Coop another year because there really is nobody available who is better. I dont like AV personally. I wouldnt mind possibly bringing up our Syracuse coach late in the year like Pittsburgh did with Sullivan and we did with Coop. Sometimes these things jump start a team. Especially if we bring up a couple of those young players. If we have another February like we did, maybe we move on? Im just not quite there yet because of what else is out there.

team is going to come out flat with cooper next year and we will be playing catch up in February like 2017 season. I agree I don't like the coaches a lot out there but really who was mike sullivan before the penguins made that change? pretty much a nobody. I just think after like 5 years a team needs a change with a coach it's not normal to keep a coach 6-8 years unless your scotty bowman which cooper is not.

 

[ultra63]

" scotty bowman which Cooper is not". The understatement of the year

 

[CupsOverCash]

team is going to come out flat with cooper next year and we will be playing catch up in February like 2017 season. I agree I don't like the coaches a lot out there but really who was mike sullivan before the penguins made that change? pretty much a nobody. I just think after like 5 years a team needs a change with a coach it's not normal to keep a coach 6-8 years unless your scotty bowman which cooper is not.

Yea I wouldnt be surprised if we started out slow this year. We need to find a way to even out the seasons efforts. We put it all towards the beginning and that was nice and all but what about the next half? I know we got 82 games plus playoffs but we need to be way more consistent than we are. We were playing consistently well in the first half and then for the first 10 games of the playoffs but after that no life. A more consistent Lightning team means bad things for the rest of the league. Hopefully we get to that point.

 

[Sky04]

Ill give Coop another year because there really is nobody available who is better. I dont like AV personally. I wouldnt mind possibly bringing up our Syracuse coach late in the year like Pittsburgh did with Sullivan and we did with Coop. Sometimes these things jump start a team. Especially if we bring up a couple of those young players. If we have another February like we did, maybe we move on? Im just not quite there yet because of what else is out there.

When the best possible coach for this team was available we didn't get him so... If Cooper had that LV roster, they wouldn't make the playoffs and the apologists would be excusing him because of a "weak roster."

Gallant making the playoffs alone this year let alone atop the West, just shows how much better a coach he is. He didn't have a Kucherov, Hedman, Stralman, Drouin like Cooper had last year and still couldn't make the playoffs.

 

[Todd1a]

When the best possible coach for this team was available we didn't get him so... If Cooper had that LV roster, they wouldn't make the playoffs and the apologists would be excusing him because of a "weak roster."

Gallant making the playoffs alone this year let alone atop the West, just shows how much better a coach he is. He didn't have a Kucherov, Hedman, Stralman, Drouin like Cooper had last year and still couldn't make the playoffs.

that was a big mistake florida firing gallant! didnt yzerman and gallant play togther?

 

[T REX]

Yea I just dont think our team worked hard enough in those final 2 games. We were playing hard but we werent going to the difficult areas. We werent keeping our feet moving in the ozone. Bad passes by our top players too. Just not on the same page. I blame Coop for this and obviously the players. It is just weird because we looked like a different team vs the Caps than against Boston and NJ. It made no sense.

It just wasn't our time.

 

[Todd1a]

When the best possible coach for this team was available we didn't get him so... If Cooper had that LV roster, they wouldn't make the playoffs and the apologists would be excusing him because of a "weak roster."

Gallant making the playoffs alone this year let alone atop the West, just shows how much better a coach he is. He didn't have a Kucherov, Hedman, Stralman, Drouin like Cooper had last year and still couldn't make the playoffs.

I second that it just wasn’t our time

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

I second that it just wasn’t our time

What the f*** does that even mean? He is just admitting that he can’t get his team amped up enough to play. It’s whoever is playing better hockey’s time.

 

[Sky04]

What the **** does that even mean? He is just admitting that he can’t get his team amped up enough to play. It’s whoever is playing better hockey’s time.

"You've been at this longer then we have, here - just take the win."

 

[Todd1a]

What the **** does that even mean? He is just admitting that he can’t get his team amped up enough to play. It’s whoever is playing better hockey’s time.

making a excuse to keep on keeping his Job as long as he can

 

[CupsOverCash]

It just wasn't our time.

It sure looked like it was our time the way we played Boston. It looked like Boston was our Stanley Cup when everyone was saying Caps had their Stanley Cup beating the Pens. I kind of know what Cooper means when he says that it wasnt our time. I just dont like it coming from the HC. He needs to take more of the responsibility. Even if it wasnt his fault. HC always is the leader when things go wrong. This should piss off our guys to no end and then you hear about some guys not hurt when they certainly are playing like it. I wouldnt be surprised if our guys tune out coop this year. We have been too close 3 times. Eventually players need a kick in their ass and I dont think Coop does.

 

[Hoek]

That wasn't the full quote. It was something about how we had so many chances in game 7 that didn't go in, and that's why it wasn't our time.

 

[Todd1a]

It sure looked like it was our time the way we played Boston. It looked like Boston was our Stanley Cup when everyone was saying Caps had their Stanley Cup beating the Pens. I kind of know what Cooper means when he says that it wasnt our time. I just dont like it coming from the HC. He needs to take more of the responsibility. Even if it wasnt his fault. HC always is the leader when things go wrong. This should piss off our guys to no end and then you hear about some guys not hurt when they certainly are playing like it. I wouldnt be surprised if our guys tune out coop this year. We have been too close 3 times. Eventually players need a kick in their ass and I dont think Coop does.

I just thought it was wrong for a head coach to say that period

 

[T REX]

Cooper is the 2nd longest tenured coach in the NHL behind Quennville.

Next year is Cooper's last year as our head coach unless he wins a Cup. Dude is so gone.

 

[Todd1a]

Cooper is the 2nd longest tenured coach in the NHL behind Quennville.

Next year is Cooper's last year as our head coach unless he wins a Cup. Dude is so gone.

Why do you think he will be fired I don’t see yzerman firing him he loves cooper too much unless we totally stink and don’t make the playoffs

 

[T REX]

Why do you think he will be fired I don’t see yzerman firing him he loves cooper too much unless we totally stink and don’t make the playoffs

Six years with this roster in its prime...get a cup or get gone. His seat is warm now. If you listened to local radio at all last week...I was surprised at multiple callers calling him Dungy 2.0. I was the first person to post that anywhere. It stuck I guess but people are not happy with Cooper.

 

[Fabiobest]

He won't and there is no reason to.

I'm not a big fan of Jon Cooper, to be honest.
But I don't think that Mr. Yzerman will fire him after a ECF Game 7 loss...

 

[DFC]

I'm not a big fan of Jon Cooper, to be honest.
But I don't think that Mr. Yzerman will fire him after a ECF Game 7 loss...

Pretty much, yeah. NHL coaches never get to the Cup-or-Bust point. It's not the same as the NFL.

 

[Master P]

The only way I think he would have been fired after this season is if we missed the playoffs again.