Player Discussion: John Tavares II

[islesfan3913]

English to English Translation.

Not everyone else's fault that you made up your own definition of "career year"

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Usually, when people say "career year", the implication is that it's his best year up to the present time, not that it's the best year he's ever gonna have.

In Josh's case, option two will apply, IMHO.

 

[seafoam]

 

[xECK29x]

Hopefully his hand is fully recovered enough to sign an extension in July

 

[CodeE]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-islanders-likely-offer-8-year-deal-john-tavares/

Sportsnet reporting the Islanders are set to offer Tavares an 8-year deal in the neighborhood of around $10M/year

Tavares will inform the Isles "sometime in the next month" if he's willing to commit long-term to the organization.

 

[NYI365]

Give him all the moneys

 

[Islesfan22]

Well if JT says no to that offer then you have to trade him.

 

[SI90]

10 mil a year should make that hand feel better.

I'm hopeful it's somewhere in the 9.5 range but if 10 it what it takes then I'm more than fine.

#SignJohnnySign

 

[eoin92]

It would be fantastic if this was done sometime in the next month. Knowing where we stand and what we need to do before the draft would be great.

 

[SI90]

It would be fantastic if this was done sometime in the next month. Knowing where we stand and what we need to do before the draft would be great.

It can't become official until July 1st but I guess the islanders and Tavares can have a verbal agreement.

 

[eoin92]

It can't become official until July 1st but I guess the islanders and Tavares can have a verbal agreement.

Yes. Can't officially sign until July first but it would be great if they had some type of verbal agreement.

 

[JKP]

Well if JT says no to that offer then you have to trade him.

No, you don't. You still have 365 days to get him to change his mind. And a lot can happen in that time to change his mind.

 

[IslandersFan17]

10 mil a year should make that hand feel better.

I'm hopeful it's somewhere in the 9.5 range but if 10 it what it takes then I'm more than fine.

#SignJohnnySign

I'd max out at 11. I mean, to be fair the market is going to go up and unless Tavares wants to be team friendly yet again, I don't mind "overpaying."

 

[TheWhiteWhale30]

I'd max out at 11. I mean, to be fair the market is going to go up and unless Tavares wants to be team friendly yet again, I don't mind "overpaying."

Agreed. Cap keeps going up...leads to an inflation in salaries. By the time matthews is ready for his big UFA deal the norm for players of JTs caliber will be 11. IF Jt was to go to FA the bidding starts at 7x10 so even if he signs for 10 per its a home town discount.

 

[TommytheCat]

Agreed. Cap keeps going up...leads to an inflation in salaries. By the time matthews is ready for his big UFA deal the norm for players of JTs caliber will be 11. IF Jt was to go to FA the bidding starts at 7x10 so even if he signs for 10 per its a home town discount.

to think that 10 mil a year is a discount ... crazy.. get it done garf ...

 

[Dipietro39]

No, you don't. You still have 365 days to get him to change his mind. And a lot can happen in that time to change his mind.

I think they have to trade him.

What would change his mind in a year?

If anything, the players the Isles bring in this offseason is the last chance to sway him to stay if he is on the fence. Plus finally figuring out where this team is going to play going forward and their plans for the future when we have tons of cap room after next season.

Holding on to him is the wrong move. What if he gets hurt and is out the whole season. You lose him for nothing.

 

[lazycop]

10 mil a year should make that hand feel better.

I'm hopeful it's somewhere in the 9.5 range but if 10 it what it takes then I'm more than fine.

#SignJohnnySign

Really? You're really worried about $500,000???

C'mon.

Give him what's fair(ie.: The Max). If it's $11 mil, it's $11 mil. As others have said, McDavid and Matthews are gonna pass that anyway before long. He's well worth it. I don't think we're ever gonna be concerned about how much we're paying JT. Besides, what's the alternative? That's right, no JT and someone else pays him. Good organizations keep star players at any cost.

 

[IslesFanatic]

Really? You're really worried about $500,000???

C'mon.

Give him what's fair(ie.: The Max). If it's $11 mil, it's $11 mil. As others have said, McDavid and Matthews are gonna pass that anyway before long. He's well worth it. I don't think we're ever gonna be concerned about how much we're paying JT. Besides, what's the alternative? That's right, no JT and someone else pays him. Good organizations keep star players at any cost.

Especially since he took a VERY friendly contract his last one at 5.5

 

[Bones45]

If I'm JT -- I don't commit to anything until this arena mess is cleared up -- and even then, Id still listen to offers from other teams.

 

[eoin92]

If I'm JT -- I don't commit to anything until this arena mess is cleared up -- and even then, Id still listen to offers from other teams.

I'm glad you're not JT. Are you suggesting he should see what the Rangers have to say? Seriously though, I understand what you're saying with regard to the arena. Hopefully, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes, with a much clearer picture of the future than what we've been shown.

 

[Kauskey]

If I'm JT -- I don't commit to anything until this arena mess is cleared up -- and even then, Id still listen to offers from other teams.

This is the only issue that makes me think JT may not re-sign. I'm confident if the arena debacle was behind us he would stay. Imagine if he inks that 8-year deal, and then has to spend 6 years in Kansas City.

That being said, plz JT stay bb.

 

[Bones45]

I'm glad you're not JT. Are you suggesting he should see what the Rangers have to say? Seriously though, I understand what you're saying with regard to the arena. Hopefully, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes, with a much clearer picture of the future than what we've been shown.

Im damn close -- hes a better skater, but Im the better sniper.

If you are JT -- what is one good hockey reason to stay with the Isles -- I cant think of one. NOT ONE.

You wanna stay b/c your fam likes living here? Ok -- thats fine -- but that about all i got.

This is the only issue that makes me think JT may not re-sign. I'm confident if the arena debacle was behind us he would stay. Imagine if he inks that 8-year deal, and then has to spend 6 years in Kansas City.

That being said, plz JT stay bb.

How about the fact that the team has made zero progress in the years he has been here and is run by a backup goalie who hasnt a clue?

 

[lazycop]

If I'm JT -- I don't commit to anything until this arena mess is cleared up -- and even then, Id still listen to offers from other teams.

If he's listening to offers from other teams, it means he's gone full FA, which would mean we probably will have traded him by then.

 

[kasper11]

I think they have to trade him.

What would change his mind in a year?

If anything, the players the Isles bring in this offseason is the last chance to sway him to stay if he is on the fence. Plus finally figuring out where this team is going to play going forward and their plans for the future when we have tons of cap room after next season.

Holding on to him is the wrong move. What if he gets hurt and is out the whole season. You lose him for nothing.

You have to listen, you don't have to trade him.

He could change his mind based on the success of the team. He may not want to sign now because he isn't sure that the Isles' current core can compete for a Cup in the near future.

If you don't trade him, and the team plays well, he could change his mind and sign.

If, by the end of December, he isn't willing to sign, you have to move him before the deadline.

The thing is, you listen now in case you get blown away. But if not, you don't make a panic trade now. If all you are getting is a first and a prospect, you can get that at the deadline.

 

[Bones45]

Fear not -- Bailey can carry the team should JT bolt for the Leafs.