Joe Thornton all time leaders watch.

[OrrNumber4]

Funny how a player can produce even more when the TEAM around him is also playing well. Sharks haven't had this kind of forward depth in years, and that combined with Thornton's typically steady play is leading to big numbers for him this season.

I see it as the other way around. When Thornton is smashing the way ahead (and Burns doing it on defense) it lets the rest of the team breathe.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I see it as the other way around. When Thornton is smashing the way ahead (and Burns doing it on defense) it lets the rest of the team breathe.

The two aren't mutually exclusive (Thornton playing well and the team playing well), but the playoffs have typically shown what happens when everyone around him goes cold. Teams start to focus on him more, and his numbers subsequently go down.

 

[Linkster]

Compare his point production rate over the last month with November when the entire Sharks' offense was dump-and-chase. Add in 4 more games vs Vancouver.

Team depth + health = Thornton hits 32nd (Perreault) and 14th (Recchi) by the end of March.

 

[Barrie22]

Compare his point production rate over the last month with November when the entire Sharks' offense was dump-and-chase. Add in 4 more games vs Vancouver.

Team depth + health = Thornton hits 32nd (Perreault) and 14th (Recchi) by the end of March.

I think he will blow by those by the end of march. In march the sharks have 16 games. His point production can literally drop by a point and a half from his past 5 games. And by half a point from his past 40 games.

He needs 10 assists in 16 games to do the assists. Even over the hill declining thornton can do that.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Jumbo has 44 points in the last 33 games (since December 15th).

 

[Juxtaposer]

Jumbo has 44 points in the last 33 games (since December 15th).

This is fricking insane. Absolutely insane. I feel so lucky to get to watch him play. He's such a joy.

 

[Barrie22]

Jumbo has 44 points in the last 33 games (since December 15th).

Just think, that is the exact same pace that Thornton was producing at 10 years ago when the bruins traded him.

 

[Alwalys]

Just think, that is the exact same pace that Thornton was producing at 10 years ago when the bruins traded him.

that is an incredible stat

 

[Kcoyote3]

I really hope Thornton resigns at like 4.5-5 million after his contract is up after next season. Give the Sharks a little wiggle room in terms of salary, and maybe we can get an Andreychuk like cup from him when he's 40. That's what I'm hoping for at least, unless the Sharks go on a miracle run this year/ next year. Who knows, but I'm not for trading Thornton anymore. Perhaps Marleau, but if he can resign for some low money, I'd be happy with that too.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I really hope Thornton resigns at like 4.5-5 million after his contract is up after next season. Give the Sharks a little wiggle room in terms of salary, and maybe we can get an Andreychuk like cup from him when he's 40. That's what I'm hoping for at least, unless the Sharks go on a miracle run this year/ next year. Who knows, but I'm not for trading Thornton anymore. Perhaps Marleau, but if he can resign for some low money, I'd be happy with that too.

I can see him dropping to 6 mil at the lowest. Question will be if this will be the contract that the three year terms go by the wayside.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I think the only way Jumbo re-signs here is if we give him a 3 year deal. If he can produce upwards of 70 points next year (which is hard to imagine that he does not), he will easily get upwards of 6M on a short term deal in the open market. I get the feeling that he is the kind of player who will give us a home town discount because he wants to stick around in SJ and retire here. I am hoping 4.5M x 3. But that is all assuming that the issues between him and DW are ironed out.

To me Patty is more risky of a player to re-sign. I would not be opposed to signing him but I do not want to give him more than 3M x 2. I think he will still be an effective 3rd liner in the next couple of years in a shutdown role while chipping in 30-40 points.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

honestly, he's earned a spot on the World Cup team. Won't make it, but he's been the best player in the world the last 3 months.

 

[weastern bias]

I can see him dropping to 6 mil at the lowest. Question will be if this will be the contract that the three year terms go by the wayside.

I see this for Joe and Patty

I can't imagine them taking less money than Logan and Pavs

 

[hohosaregood]

I'd like to see a $5m cap hit where they go 6/5/4.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I see this for Joe and Patty

I can't imagine them taking less money than Logan and Pavs

I can see Marleau re-signing for less just because his numbers no longer compare to Pavs and Couture. He's also historically slid just underneath Thornton's cap number.

 

[rangerssharks414]

I'd like to see a $5m cap hit where they go 6/5/4.

I don't think I want to see a three year deal at his age.

 

[Mafoofoo]

Thornton being the greatest Shark ever will sign for a crazy discount with us. Watch.

 

[Chairman Mallard]

honestly, he's earned a spot on the World Cup team. Won't make it, but he's been the best player in the world the last 3 months.

It would be scary to put him with two legit best in the world snipers right now the way he is playing. Too bad he probably won't make it.

I don't think I want to see a three year deal at his age.

I think he's going to be one of those players that can play into his 40's if he wants to. He easily has 3 years left in him.

 

[OrrNumber4]

The two aren't mutually exclusive (Thornton playing well and the team playing well), but the playoffs have typically shown what happens when everyone around him goes cold. Teams start to focus on him more, and his numbers subsequently go down.

I still see it the otherway down. Thornton goes cold, and the rest of the team follows.

 

[SactoShark]

I still see it the otherway down. Thornton goes cold, and the rest of the team follows.

That's because he gets mean and picks on everybody.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I still see it the otherway down. Thornton goes cold, and the rest of the team follows.

That would be one hell of a mental hold he has on the other nine forwards who aren't on his line.

 

[OrrNumber4]

That would be one hell of a mental hold he has on the other nine forwards who aren't on his line.

Well, I think he drags his entire line down. And that lets the other team focus resources on the other lines. There is also an element, and this isn't completely JT's fault, where the team is waiting for Thornton/Marleau to save the day. Part of that is the way JT has been billed by the organization, a position JT accepts and embraces.

 

[Barrie22]

Well, I think he drags his entire line down. And that lets the other team focus resources on the other lines. There is also an element, and this isn't completely JT's fault, where the team is waiting for Thornton/Marleau to save the day. Part of that is the way JT has been billed by the organization, a position JT accepts and embraces.

This was evident on the earlier sharks teams with thornton on the team.

I don't know how many times i would see thornton being double teamed to make the pass to the point or another forward that was open only for that player just to pass it back to thornton still in the double team.

 

[Barrie22]

http://teamstre.am/1pu8D6V

Article about how this is one of the best seasons of thorntons career.

 

[Sleepy]

I was brought here before Joe Thornton. Instead, I think it's more apt to say that I am to this board what the masses think Patrick Marleau is to the sharks: someone whow underperforms relative to their talent because they coast on their reputation and past outputs, and then fails to deliver any meaningful returns in the playoffs.

Mind=blown.