Prospect Info: Jets Prospects

[bustamente]

I expect David Gustafsson to make the Jets this year, Vesalainen 40/60

 

[10Ducky10]

Could be injured?

Askarov came back?

 

[mazmin]

I expect David Gustafsson to make the Jets this year, Vesalainen 40/60

It’s a bit of a log jam

Top 6 is set where Gus and Ves have little to no chance of cracking right away.

Bottom Six:
1. Copp
2. Lowry
3. Roslovic
4. Harkins
5. Perreault
6. Appleton

There’s also Perfetti who some think has a chance, but he should get another season in the OHL or even sneak away to Europe so he isn’t stuck in a no-hitter season.

I think Gus should be first call up, and Ves should be next and I sincerely hope to see Thompson and Dano as Moose and Moose only.

In the next 12-24 months I’d like to see Lowry and Perreault move on, and Gus and Ves take their places.

 

[Adam da bomb]

It’s a bit of a log jam

Top 6 is set where Gus and Ves have little to no chance of cracking right away.

Bottom Six:
1. Copp
2. Lowry
3. Roslovic
4. Harkins
5. Perreault
6. Appleton

There’s also Perfetti who some think has a chance, but he should get another season in the OHL or even sneak away to Europe so he isn’t stuck in a no-hitter season.

I think Gus should be first call up, and Ves should be next and I sincerely hope to see Thompson and Dano as Moose and Moose only.

In the next 12-24 months I’d like to see Lowry and Perreault move on, and Gus and Ves take their places.

Also isn't Roslovic not signed therefore could end up being moved for a 2nd or whatever. I don't want Perfetti getting 4 minutes a game.
If Roslo is moved
Copp Lowry Apple/Harkins
Perrault Thompson/Gus/ Harkins/Apple

I think Ves should get 1st crack at top 6 if one of those guys get injured. Unless it's centre. Then I'd love to see
Ehlers/KFC Harkins Wheeler/Laine. I think Harkins has the best chance of being a tweener. Unless they move Wheeler to centre then ves as winger.
Unless the injury is very early on in camp or something than Perfetti should stay as one of the top 2 centres.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

It’s a bit of a log jam

Top 6 is set where Gus and Ves have little to no chance of cracking right away.

Bottom Six:
1. Copp
2. Lowry
3. Roslovic
4. Harkins
5. Perreault
6. Appleton

There’s also Perfetti who some think has a chance, but he should get another season in the OHL or even sneak away to Europe so he isn’t stuck in a no-hitter season.

I think Gus should be first call up, and Ves should be next and I sincerely hope to see Thompson and Dano as Moose and Moose only.

In the next 12-24 months I’d like to see Lowry and Perreault move on, and Gus and Ves take their places.

I agree, but I think Thompson has a better than 75% chance at 4C.

 

[JetsUK]

Nice article about Vesalainen in the WFP today (paywall - Vesalainen not fooling around). Basic messages:

• KV is focused on playing a style that will be successful in the NHL,
• knows that he needs to earn a spot on a roster deep with wing talent,
• has been working very hard in the off-season
• really liked Vincent as a coach, and appreciated how he communicated with KV

Really good on Vincent. Love having a coach like that working with the young guys on the Moose.

Yep. I've posted a few times about the excellent mentorship that PV provides to the kids and his thoughts on KV -- plenty of positive signs there even through the darkest Kristian Bustaleinen days.

I have a lot of respect for Vincent and the work he does, especially given the difficulty of coaching a turnstile using systems that are not his own and don't necessarily reflect the team he has. I hope he sticks around, and gets some consideration for the Jets HC job when (and if) that opens up.

 

[surixon]

Really good on Vincent. Love having a coach like that working with the young guys on the Moose.

Yeah I have been very impressed with the work Vincent has done with our prospects on the Moose over the years.

 

[surixon]

Nice article about Vesalainen in the WFP today (paywall - Vesalainen not fooling around). Basic messages:

• KV is focused on playing a style that will be successful in the NHL,
• knows that he needs to earn a spot on a roster deep with wing talent,
• has been working very hard in the off-season
• really liked Vincent as a coach, and appreciated how he communicated with KV

Glad to see that the light bulb has appeared to go off in Ves. Hes got the skill and size we need and if he bow has that drive and work ethic I see a valuable add to this roster.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Glad to see that the light bulb has appeared to go off in Ves. Hes got the skill and size we need and if he bow has that drive and work ethic I see a valuable add to this roster.

Especially if he can be the gritty mean guy that our top 6 badly needs.

 

[JetsUK]

Especially if he can be the gritty mean guy that our top 6 badly needs.

He def has the size and wheels, and reputedly bit of a mean streak, but I haven't seen much of that in his games for the Moose. One thing he has definitely worked on is his cycle and puck protection skills -- his ability to hold up and then just explode out of the corners with the puck and release quickly is pretty amazing, like a revved-up KC on Hulk-juice, or an emergent Armia plus top-end shot.

It's a skill-set we don't have in spades, and a real asset to a revamped PP.

 

[surixon]

He def has the size and wheels, and reputedly bit of a mean streak, but I haven't seen much of that in his games for the Moose. One thing he has definitely worked on is his cycle and puck protection skills -- his ability to hold up and then just explode out of the corners with the puck and release quickly is pretty amazing, like a revved-up KC on Hulk-juice, or an emergent Armia plus top-end shot.

It's a skill-set we don't have in spades, and a real asset to a revamped PP.

He doesn't need throw his body around. It's the ability to hold up the puck and shield it that you mentioned that we need more of.

 

[Adam da bomb]

He doesn't need throw his body around. It's the ability to hold up the puck and shield it that you mentioned that we need more of.

I would disagree and think physicality and better defense is where our top 6 suffer. I want a top 6 player who is mean and players have to be wary when he is on the ice. Like a Tkachuk.

 

[Bob E]

Having guys like KV, Gus, and Harkins seemingly ready for a bottom 6 role, there really is a log jam now.

I wonder what our lineup would look like now if Konecny was still available and selected by Jets instead of Roslovic. His price point would have necessitated a move of a higher priced player or two by now.

 

[ps241]

Nice article about Vesalainen in the WFP today (paywall - Vesalainen not fooling around). Basic messages:

• KV is focused on playing a style that will be successful in the NHL,
• knows that he needs to earn a spot on a roster deep with wing talent,
• has been working very hard in the off-season
• really liked Vincent as a coach, and appreciated how he communicated with KV

Boy you like hearing that about a coach don’t you? Really Glad The light bulb has gone off for KVes.

 

[Whileee]

Looks like Nikkanen's stock is rising as a prospect this season. He's playing a top-2 C role in Liiga play and is a possibility for Team Finland in the World Juniors. He's probably still a longshot for the NHL, but he might have a chance.

 

[mazmin]

I agree, but I think Thompson has a better than 75% chance at 4C.

I’m afraid you’re going to be proven correct. Knowing Maurice, even Dave Lowry has a 25% chance at seeing time on the 4th line...

 

[KingBogo]

I’m afraid you’re going to be proven correct. Knowing Maurice, even Dave Lowry has a 25% chance at seeing time on the 4th line...

Assuming Roslovic signs and we are healthy for Thompson to play he would need to dress above either Copp, Lowry, MP, Roslovic, Harkins or Appleton. I don't see this happening, though the chances of being completely healthy is unlikely so I do see him as the 13th or 14th PB forward but still getting a fair amount of games. The truth is you need the Nate Thompson's of the world to play this role as you don't want to have to do it with one of your young developing players.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Looks like Nikkanen's stock is rising as a prospect this season. He's playing a top-2 C role in Liiga play and is a possibility for Team Finland in the World Juniors. He's probably still a longshot for the NHL, but he might have a chance.

I seem to remember some saying he was actually projected as a first rounder and had an injury that prevented him from finishing out his draft season(or a large part of it)

has the size and frame. I think he has potential for sure.

 

[mazmin]

Looks like Nikkanen's stock is rising as a prospect this season. He's playing a top-2 C role in Liiga play and is a possibility for Team Finland in the World Juniors. He's probably still a longshot for the NHL, but he might have a chance.

You can’t go wrong with size and skill in the 4th round! His team in Liiga is pretty bad, so here’s to hoping he gets a full season in the WHL with the Ice before going pro.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I’m afraid you’re going to be proven correct. Knowing Maurice, even Dave Lowry has a 25% chance at seeing time on the 4th line...

Maurice does love him his Lowrys.

Copp and Lowry are not going to be broken up. Just not happening. That leaves Thompson as the most likely 4C.

 

[KingBogo]

Maurice does love him his Lowrys.

Copp and Lowry are not going to be broken up. Just not happening. That leaves Thompson as the most likely 4C.

And who then sits in the PB? Harkins or Appleton?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

I’m afraid you’re going to be proven correct. Knowing Maurice, even Dave Lowry has a 25% chance at seeing time on the 4th line...

Hey, as long as he passes the beep test in training camp, I'm fine with that. In fact, maybe all coaches should have to perform the beep test along with the players. None of this do as I say, not as I do nonsense. Let them lead by example. Especially Maurice. You don't want to see him coughing and wheezing on the bench after an extended haranguing of the on-ice officials.

 

[Ginger Papa]

@Steve Kournianos has done some excellent assessments Post Draft imho. Today he released his Jets Review:

The Draft Analyst Podcast: Team-by-Team 2020 Draft Recaps

 

[GumbyCan2]

And who then sits in the PB? Harkins or Appleton?

Perreault, if he doesn't produce and is pharting around getting bad penalties again. Expensive " popcorn seat filler" but...better off letting Harkins and Appleton play, grow their games. PB and spot duty minimum will only stymie their progression.

 

[GumbyCan2]

Since last year, Heinola has almost doubled his production in half the amount of games played.

2019/2020: 7pts in 30 games
2020/2021: 12pts in 15 games

Ville Heinola Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Wow! Great production progression.