Speculation: Jets - General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation (Part XVI)

[garret9]

Well judging by the fact that Buffalo is tanking and not even trying to hide the fact I think they'd be fine with acquiring Burmi whenever.

Does Burmi have any type of out-clause with his Russian team?

No out clause known.

He was asked by a Russian reporter if he did for year two but avoided answering the question... make of it what you may.

 

[scelaton]

Well judging by the fact that Buffalo is tanking and not even trying to hide the fact I think they'd be fine with acquiring Burmi whenever.

Does Burmi have any type of out-clause with his Russian team?

IIRC only after their season is done .

I am wondering if there is a deal to be made with Washington--trading Burmi's rights plus one of our defencemen for Johansson and a (very) high draft pick.
Washington has a wealth of good Fs, a dearth of Ds and a penchant for Russian players. Imagine Burmi contemplating playing with Ovi--might hasten his return.

 

[cheswick]

Isn't there an option to be over the cap this season? Not current on the specifics but I thought there was some provision to do this or something similar.

That's a bonus cushion, and as far a I know it's in effect for this season. It allows teams to spend upto 7.5% over the cap in bonuses. If those bonuses are subsequently earned, they will be applied as a penalty on the next season.

Edit: Cap geek excludes perforance bonuses from their calculation on team cap, so when looking at cap geek numbers this overage is aready taken into account

 

[tacogeoff]

I kinda wish that Chevy would 'clean house' a bit in this regard, as well. (glut of no potential depth players)

I'd like to see Thorburn waived, Stuart traded, and most likely Pardy sent down once we get some bodies back on D. Thing is, as we've shown, we need the extra people for injury replacement.

I'd include trading Slater since he seems to have become a bandaid but I think a guy like him is super valuable to the team. He wins faceoffs, and gives us good reliable minutes.

A Slater, Wright, Peluso 4th line (or Halischuk if Peluso can gain coaches confidence on the 3rd) is one that can really chew up minutes, win some faceoffs. Good for us if we were say up a goal in the 3rd.

Did some research recently that isn't enough to put in an article on it's own but thought you guys would like it for when talking about upgrades/additions.

I used similar data as an old Tyler Delow article separating the NHL in lines by TOI and then further separating the lines into sections, essentially looking at the talent and statistical results spread of good to bad 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines.

One thing that has thus far come out of is the overall improvement of having a good to poor line.

I separated each line into 5 pieces (so 6 teams per a chunk or 20% of that lines players). So the difference in improving the teams ultimate end goal differential from having a bottom 20% to top 20% line is:

1st line => ~21 goals +/-
2nd line => ~18 goals +/-
3rd line => ~16 goals +/-
4th line => ~9 goals +/-

So now you know how much value to a teams goal differential improving each line from bottom 20% to top 20% is worth.

@Jet. Done! I am onboard with your plan. Jet for GM!!


Like always your stats back up my office debates! thanks Garret

 

[Zhamnov10]

I wonder if Buffalo would take Jokinen in a trade for Ott,considering Ollie's contract is up plus he would help them with there goal of finishing in last place.

 

[JetsHomer]

I wonder if Buffalo would take Jokinen in a trade for Ott,considering Ollie's contract is up plus he would help them with there goal of finishing in last place.

Buffalo is not trading their captain for Olli Jokinen...

 

[Sweech]

Buffalo is not trading their captain for Olli Jokinen...

OR are they?!?!?!




















...no, no they're probably not.

 

[wpgsilver]

....Or are they!?!?!?

 

[Zhamnov10]

FYI I was totally kidding about the Ollie trade!!

 

[Flair Hay]

The only surprise would be if Olli wasn't being sought after by pretty much every Cup contender this spring

 

[Bob E]

The only surprise would be if Olli wasn't being sought after by pretty much every Cup contender this spring

Seriously?

Olli would add very little to a true cup contender. Even filling in as an injury replacement, there would be much better options.

 

[EpicGingy]

Seriously?

Olli would add very little to a true cup contender. Even filling in as an injury replacement, there would be much better options.

Um... I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.

Unless this was sarcasm...

Sarcasception

 

[Shakey Rustie]

So I think it is clear that the status quo is not good enough. What do we do? Stay the course, rid ourselves of useless FA at the end of the year (i.e. Jokinen) and hope the players progress? Trade away some of our future for impact players now? Or do we sell what assets we have, while keeping our young assets, and have a mini-rebuild?

 

[YNWA14]

Out of curiosity...what do you think the Jets would want from Ottawa for one of Enstrom or Bogosian? Not saying that this is going to be done, and I'm not looking to hear that neither will move. As with like 99.9% of all trade speculation on here I'm aware of the chances involved. I am just curious where you think their valuation sits and especially relative to potential players/prospects from Ottawa in this situation.

 

[Majikme]

Out of curiosity...what do you think the Jets would want from Ottawa for one of Enstrom or Bogosian? Not saying that this is going to be done, and I'm not looking to hear that neither will move. As with like 99.9% of all trade speculation on here I'm aware of the chances involved. I am just curious where you think their valuation sits and especially relative to potential players/prospects from Ottawa in this situation.

Can bobby ryan play C? even he couldn't, i imagine him and kane would look nice together

Kane, Shiefele, Ryan. 10/10, would bang.

Would let one of them go for that probably... But a Buff/Karlsson pairing would have to be the most offensive d pairing/pound in the league.

 

[Flair Hay]

Out of curiosity...what do you think the Jets would want from Ottawa for one of Enstrom or Bogosian? Not saying that this is going to be done, and I'm not looking to hear that neither will move. As with like 99.9% of all trade speculation on here I'm aware of the chances involved. I am just curious where you think their valuation sits and especially relative to potential players/prospects from Ottawa in this situation.

Mika Z/Turris, Lehner and Cowen would be the two players whose value would be as high to us as it is to you guys.

Enstrom + something?? for Cowen + Lehner

If I was Chevy I'd have no problem giving up a 1st outside or right around the top ten straight up for Lehner. Schneider for Horvat style.

While we're in la la land hehe

 

[YNWA14]

Mika Z/Turris, Lehner and Cowen would be the two players whose value would be as high to us as it is to you guys.

Enstrom + something?? for Cowen + Lehner

If I was Chevy I'd have no problem giving up a 1st outside or right around the top ten straight up for Lehner. Schneider for Horvat style.

While we're in la la land hehe

lol...well I feel like it would be tough. I'd do Cowen + Lehner + 2nd and maybe a bit more for Enstrom and Kane though.

 

[Huffer]

lol...well I feel like it would be tough. I'd do Cowen + Lehner + 2nd and maybe a bit more for Enstrom and Kane though.

Good thing you put in a winky face, because that's terrible.

 

[YNWA14]

Good thing you put in a winky face, because that's terrible.

I know, it's always the 'my young players are better and have more potential than your young players' thing. Anyway good luck with the rest of the season...was just looking for a valuation.

 

[CorgisPer60]

I look at trade proposals on HF and it makes me glad that no one here runs an NHL team. I'm a firm believer of 'you can't be a fan of the team if you're the GM'. Look at how well it helped the Bombers the last few years. >_>

 

[saskriders]

What would you guys trade for Anderson?

 

[razorsedge]

What would you guys trade for Anderson?

My first born. He's 3 and the offspring of satan.

 

[CorgisPer60]

My first born. He's 3 and the offspring of satan.

So, ex-wife's kid?

 

[Aavco Cup]

Giroux & Snyder apparently had "words" after they were shut out today. Half the Flyer board wants to trade G. He's had a terrible season so far. Giroux for Buff? His cap hit is 3.75 this year then 8 X 8.25.

 

[allan5oh]

I'd do that in a heartbeat, but I doubt Buff alone gets G.