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Hate to break it to some in here, but pro scouting includes contract extensions
People that say JT did nothing wrong simply do not understand the game.
First of all there is no way you turn back into your own zone with under 1 minute left.and go south when you need to be moving north
Secondly Miller is slow and not a great puck mover so retreating is not a good move. Delia was ready to come out but when Miller retreated he retreated as well.
Then the act of slamming his stick like the whiner and cancer he is while play is still on is a non team player act that goes against every code in hockey.
Miller is a pathetic a hole. If his teammates called him out on ice for his never ending brain farts , we would be seeing hm be called out every period of every game
Signing him long term was an egregious error in judgment by PA and JR
How’s that? Those seem like two different things to me.Hate to break it to some in here, but pro scouting includes contract extensions
JT Miller is a loser.
That is all.
The team’s valuation of their players would depend in part on their scouting of the player (value, trajectory, etc.). The scouting might be done by different people but it’s the same skillset.How’s that? Those seem like two different things to me.
One is identifying talent - usually done by a scout.
The other is negotiating a contract - usually done by a GM or associate GM.
I’ve seen many goaltenders miss the signal from the bench or be hesitant because of where the puck is etc when pulling the goaltender. I’ve NEVER seen a teammate respond in that way. Delia may have missed the signal of intent of the signal that’s a mistake. What Miller did was “in the wrong”.He was circling back and waiting for the sixth guy because they want to time their break-in correctly with everyone on the ice. It's possible/likely that the plan was to ring the puck around boards on the break-in and you want the 6th guy inside the zone to help contain the puck. We don't know. We do know that the coach wanted their 6th guy out there at that time, so Delia is in the wrong.
He was clearly slamming his stick to get the goalie's attention because nothing else had worked. The coached had waived him over and he didn't go. Miller said something and it's possible other players did as well. What else do you do at that point to get him to the bench? Should they have a polite discussion after the game?
Call it what it is - Delia f***ed up.
How’s that? Those seem like two different things to me.
One is identifying talent - usually done by a scout.
The other is negotiating a contract - usually done by a GM or associate GM.
Horvat last game “we are above .500 let’s stay here”
Literally the next game….. nope.
I’ve seen many goaltenders miss the signal from the bench or be hesitant because of where the puck is etc when pulling the goaltender. I’ve NEVER seen a teammate respond in that way. Delia may have missed the signal of intent of the signal that’s a mistake. What Miller did was “in the wrong”.
I would also argue you don’t see a goaltender go to the bench when the puck is coming back into your own zone regardless of possession (unless on delayed penalty call). A coach signaling the goaltender typically means “when safe to do so..”
Choosing to pay players the correct allotment should go hand in hand.How’s that? Those seem like two different things to me.
One is identifying talent - usually done by a scout.
The other is negotiating a contract - usually done by a GM or associate GM.
The salary cap..?Yeah, there is a reason why Tampa gave up on him, and it was the right call. The Canucks have been a prime target for other team's cast offs during the last decade.
Could they not have traded other players?The salary cap..?
Who knows..?..There is no evidence of Miller having behavioural problems in Tampa..On the contrary, he was well liked by his teammates, and that was where he became an impact player.Could they not have traded other players?
He was more of a luxury piece than a core piece for them, a powerplay specialist who played low 5v5 minutes.Could they not have traded other players?
It's no better than JB...Who said the pro scouting has to be miraculous?
Yeah, there is a reason why Tampa gave up on him, and it was the right call. The Canucks have been a prime target for other team's cast offs during the last decade.
Watch the replay; the Canucks tried for over a minute to exit the zone but couldn't and when Miller finally started to move Delia had been on high alert for awhile but had no chance to safely get to the bench. Also note how long it took us to lose the puck and give up an empty net goal. This team is a mess...He was circling back and waiting for the sixth guy because they want to time their break-in correctly with everyone on the ice. It's possible/likely that the plan was to ring the puck around boards on the break-in and you want the 6th guy inside the zone to help contain the puck. We don't know. We do know that the coach wanted their 6th guy out there at that time, so Delia is in the wrong.
He was clearly slamming his stick to get the goalie's attention because nothing else had worked. The coached had waived him over and he didn't go. Miller said something and it's possible other players did as well. What else do you do at that point to get him to the bench? Should they have a polite discussion after the game?
Call it what it is - Delia f***ed up.
Watch the replay; the Canucks tried for over a minute to exit the zone but couldn't and when Miller finally started to move Delia had been on high alert for awhile but had no chance to safely get to the bench. Also note how long it took us to lose the puck and give up an empty net goal. This team is a mess...
Lol Tampa beats Colorado last year if they have an extra 99 pts on the rosterYeah, there is a reason why Tampa gave up on him, and it was the right call. The Canucks have been a prime target for other team's cast offs during the last decade.
You must be one of those JT Miller apologists that exist here. He is overrated garbage, a total cancer on this team. If I were Delia I would have torn a strip off of him... in the locker room of course. Certainly I hope Horvat gives him what for. We can't lose this piece of garbage fast enough...I've watched the replay a bunch of times. It could have just been they were waiting for the 6th guy to come on the ice because whatever they had planned was best served with all 6 guys moving up ice at the same time. I don't really know.
The reaction from some of the online "media" and fans has been bizarre to me and just overly emotional. Big mean JT Miller yelled at the poor 3rd string goalie to do what he was supposed to do. Oh no!
Watch the replay; the Canucks tried for over a minute to exit the zone but couldn't and when Miller finally started to move Delia had been on high alert for awhile but had no chance to safely get to the bench. Also note how long it took us to lose the puck and give up an empty net goal. This team is a mess...
There were strategic issues with the trade from the Canucks' perspective. However, in terms of value, the trade itself was heavily in favor of the Canucks. When they traded him, Tampa wasn't exactly anticipating that Miller would be a PPG+ player on a $5.25 million contract ending when he was 30.