Rumor: Jets and Avs (Kyle Connor)

[RoyIsALegend]

I think Sakic sees a top four of Girard, Byram, Makar and Timmins for the next 6-7 years after this season. Considering how Avs have struggled to draft and develop defenders in the past, it's hard seeing him move Byram for a forward.

 

[DarthProbert]

No way the Avs move Girard, they just signed him to a 7 year extension before his ELC even expired and they love the guy and his cap hit is fantastic. He's also having a breakout campaign this year. He's tied his career best in points already in just 52 games, and should have no problem hitting ~35 points.

Then again you'd think the Jets would make the same argument to not move Connor. They just signed him to a 7 year extension at a truly fabulous cap hit and he too looks primed for a breakout campaign where he could hit ~40 goals and 75 points at seasons end.

I dont think the Avs would move Girard. I also dont think they would move Byram. So I dont think we see a trade but this is interesting. Sounds like Sakic has been pretty actively pursuing a younger Top 6 winger for a while now.

A soft, 35 point defenceman who's replaceable from within is at the peak of his value and that's the reason NOT to trade him?

I suppose the better idea is to trade Zadorov, so when McDavid or Kucherov or Gaudreau are on the ice they can be covered by...uh...Makar? Cole? Johnson? Girard?

 

[The Kingslayer]

Byram is a bust. Why would the Jets even entertain this?


Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

 

[broc]

Lol, Byram might be worth Kyle Connor if Byram was having an even better season than his draft season- but he’s not.

Kyle Connor is a 23 year old established 1st line top winger.

And whoever said Jost and a 2nd and a 3rd- what a waste of air you are

 

[Asinine]

Lol, Byram might be worth Kyle Connor if Byram was having an even better season than his draft season- but he’s not.

Kyle Connor is a 23 year old established 1st line top winger.

And whoever said Jost and a 2nd and a 3rd- what a waste of air you are

Jost is a 21 year old top 10 pick with ....agh nevermind. Everyone already knows he sucks.

 

[67 others]

Could Connor be a goner?

It seems fairly far-fetched, but one of the Jets' beat writers indicates that he's heard some chatter about the Jets trading Kyle Connor, with the Avs as a potential destination. He also indicates that the return would focus on Bowen Byram.

Okay, so let's ask the hypothetical question:

To Avs: Kyle Connor
To Jets: Bowen Byram

Who says "no"?

You misspelled "Makar"

 

[RoyIsALegend]

You misspelled "Makar"

Well... good day to you, sir.

 

[Groo]

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New kids in the hall

 

[broc]

Jost is a 21 year old top 10 pick with ....agh nevermind. Everyone already knows he sucks.

Not saying he sucks, not saying he doesn’t have value, or wouldn’t be of interestto anyone. But his value is not anywhere close to Kyle Connor. He’d be a complimentary piece. Not the core of the trade.

The offer was Jost a 2nd and a 3rd.
It could be Jost and 2 1st rd picks, and it still isn’t close to Kyle Connor and would be a no.

Other guy got it right when he said, sure- as soon as you trade Rantanen for Vesalainen and a 2nd and 3rd.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

If I’m Colorado I take this deal to land Kyle Connor. I know it hurts to lose a 1st rd defense prospect but Colorado still has Makar, Girard, Timmons and big Zadorov all under 24 years old.

It’s not wise to have a total young defense. Gotta have a few vets to lead the young guys.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

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Looks great, until it comes time to pay everybody. Just ask the Jets how that goes. Happens to all good drafting teams eventually.

 

[Patagonia]

If I’m Colorado I take this deal to land Kyle Connor. I know it hurts to lose a 1st rd defense prospect but Colorado still has Makar, Girard, Timmons and big Zadorov all under 24 years old.

It’s not wise to have a total young defense. Gotta have a few vets to lead the young guys.

This deal makes no sense.

WPG needs a RHD, Byram is a LHD. So they want Makar (not happening) or Timmins which require more pieces with Newhook, 1st are the likely larger package. AVs are among the most potent offences in the league and need a 3C or RW Sniper. He’s an elite, but soft LW that will bump Landy or Bura.

I could see KC traded, but unlikely to the AVs.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

This deal makes no sense.

WPG needs a RHD, Byram is a LHD. So they want Makar (not happening) or Timmins which require more pieces with Newhook, 1st are the likely larger package. AVs are among the most potent offences in the league and need a 3C or RW Sniper. He’s an elite, but soft LW that will bump Landy or Bura.

I could see KC traded, but unlikely to the AVs.

As far as the OP goes it would make sense for the avalanche to trade for Kyle Connor, especially for a playoff run if he were truly available but it would not make sense for Winnipeg to trade for a left-handed defensive prospect that’s unproven in the NHL and that may not be ready to play in the NHL next season.

If Colorado is hurting losing Byram then they could trade Landeskog next season before the trade deadline to recoup a pick to draft another defenseman.

The cap will fit for the avalanche with what they have coming off the books at the end of the season.

 

[FreshFitted67]

I would trade Byram, Bowers, Jost and a 2nd for KC.

KC is locked up long term on a decent contract, he's young, he's talented, and the Avs have Timmins in the pipeline/ can draft a LHD in the first round this year if they want.

Load up for a cup run...
KC/Mack/Rants
Nuke/Kadri/Bura
Landy/JTC/Donk
Nieto/PEB/Kamenev?

 

[JackFr]

Connor is absolutely horrendous defensively, I wouldn't touch this if I'm the Avs.

 

[untouchable21]

I have no idea what the Isles could offer in order to get Connor from the Jets but I'd love for it to happen.

Dobson and a 1st? (Personally wouldn't do as I like building from the net out and Dobson's got #1 potential)
Pulock and a 1st? (Personally wouldn't do as I like building from the net out and Pulock's our #1).

Hai Guyz, how about Wilde, Ho-Sang and our 2024 1st, will that be enough?/?//???

For me personally, it’s a deal with Dobson or no dice. I’d HATE to lose Connor, absolutely HATE it, but I understand it takes quality to get quality.

I also understand why the NYI wouldn’t do it.

I would much prefer Dobson over Byram and I do like Byram very much, plus would rather not face Connor as frequently. He’d come back to scorch us too much if he were with the Avalanche.

 

[missionAvs]

Not saying he sucks, not saying he doesn’t have value, or wouldn’t be of interestto anyone. But his value is not anywhere close to Kyle Connor. He’d be a complimentary piece. Not the core of the trade.

The offer was Jost a 2nd and a 3rd.
It could be Jost and 2 1st rd picks, and it still isn’t close to Kyle Connor and would be a no.

Other guy got it right when he said, sure- as soon as you trade Rantanen for Vesalainen and a 2nd and 3rd.

You should be saying this as Tyson Jost does, in fact, suck. He sucks real bad actually.

 

[untouchable21]

I remember Avs fans were outraged that Ottawa wouldn't move Chabot for Duchene and then Sens fans were outraged that Dallas wouldn't move Heiskanen for Erik Karlsson.

These young bluechip dmen don't get traded and it has nothing to do with how Hfboards value them.

bit different considering those players were not coming in locked in for 6 more seasons

 

[a mangy Meowth]

RW Sniper

Think another RHD would be more important. We only have 2 on D and Cole is playing on the right.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Cheveldayoff wouldn't do this...

Unless Kyle Connor demands a trade it's highly unlikely. Jets value Connor highly, but it'd take from the Avs Mikko Rantanen at least. Not Bowen Byram...

 

[Halla]

An established 30 goal scorer to a prospect that's a "maybe"?

I'd say no. And yeah he's a good prospect, but still.

he isnt a good prospect. he is a great prospect, top 5 easily and arguably the top guy.

 

[TS Quint]

This deal makes no sense.

WPG needs a RHD, Byram is a LHD. So they want Makar (not happening) or Timmins which require more pieces with Newhook, 1st are the likely larger package. AVs are among the most potent offences in the league and need a 3C or RW Sniper. He’s an elite, but soft LW that will bump Landy or Bura.

I could see KC traded, but unlikely to the AVs.

The jets shouldn't be eternally rebuilding. They aren't far off from being a top Cup contender.

 

[TS Quint]

bit different considering those players were not coming in locked in for 6 more seasons

Yup

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Cheveldayoff wouldn't do this...

Unless Kyle Connor demands a trade it's highly unlikely. Jets value Connor highly, but it'd take from the Avs Mikko Rantanen at least. Not Bowen Byram...

It would take at least Rantanen? What?

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

It would take at least Rantanen? What?

At Least

This is a great proposal, but still not quite the right one for the Avs no matter how you see the value. We aren't as high on Byram as we were on Makar, but it isn't that far off either.

Imagine if 2 years ago the Avs traded Makar (Pre-NHL) for Rickard Rakell? That is kindof how we Avs fans are viewing this proposal. RR was the first 60-70ish point guy I found for an example who would have had 5 years at $3.8M.

The Avs have plenty of offense right now and as good as Connor is, it doesnt make sense to move a blue chip D for him.