Player Discussion Jesse Puljujarvi '18-19 Season

[McAsuno]

So is it Puljujarvi being demoted, or Strome being demoted?

The way Stauffer was describing the lines, he referred to Caggiula/Khaira/Puljujarvi as the 3rd line and Strome/Kassian/Reider as the 4th.

They're shit lines in general. Classic McBlender by the moronic coach already showing his idiocy after one game in the season.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Kassian sucks lol

poor Jesse

 

[McAsuno]

Kassian sucks lol

poor Jesse

Kassian did f*** all during the pre season. Todd loves to talk about accountability 24 7, but apparently accountability means a pre season Kassian deserves a 3rd line spot over a great pre season in JP whom gets bumped to 4th line duties. Accountability, my ass.

 

[Aerrol]

So is it Puljujarvi being demoted, or Strome being demoted?

The way Stauffer was describing the lines, he referred to Caggiula/Khaira/Puljujarvi as the 3rd line and Strome/Kassian/Reider as the 4th.

Well yeah, that sounds better for the org when you put it that way. Of course Stauffer is trying to spin this.

 

[McJazz]

It’s just so damn stupid. He had a great preseason and one game in he gets demoted to play with Caggiula and Khaira. It’s like Mclellan doesn’t want to win.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Is it such a dire situation that you're not getting media access or possibly losing your job if you're to go against anything this organization does? I'm speaking moreso of the Team 1260 and TSN group than I am the CHED one as I know they're directly employed by the Oilers.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Ayyy more tmac apologists.

At least Lowetide was questioning it and Jameson is still questioning it on 1260.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

It’s just so damn stupid. He had a great preseason and one game in he gets demoted to play with Caggiula and Khaira. It’s like Mclellan doesn’t want to win.

Get ready for the tin foil hat.

Toddy knows he's going to be fired. It's time to dismantle the team before he goes and is re-hired as the head coach for Seattle and wants to see the Oilers dwindle in his divison.

OooOOOOoooOOO.

Nah, Todd just sucks.

 

[Digger12]

Well yeah, that sounds better for the org when you put it that way. Of course Stauffer is trying to spin this.

Could be. The true proof will be which line gets more minutes and offensive zone starts when the game actually happens.

I mean, it's not a stretch to think that McLellan's more negative on Strome right now than Pulju. Strome dragged down his entire line vs. NJ, and was eaten alive in the faceoff dot.

Not to mention, all through preseason the Strome/Pulju/Khaira line was considered the '3rd' line. So now Strome is moved off the line and replaced by Caggiula, and suddenly they're the 4th line now? I guess we'll see.

 

[Aerrol]

Could be. The true proof will be which line gets more minutes and offensive zone starts when the game actually happens.

I mean, it's not a stretch to think that McLellan's more negative on Strome right now than Pulju. Strome dragged down his entire line vs. NJ, and was eaten alive in the faceoff dot.

Agree, but I mean, the best case scenario here is that McLellan has panicked after one game and has made even shittier lines. Hardly good news.

 

[McJazz]

Get ready for the tin foil hat.

Toddy knows he's going to be fired. It's time to dismantle the team before he goes and is re-hired as the head coach for Seattle and wants to see the Oilers dwindle in his divison.

OooOOOOoooOOO.

Nah, Todd just sucks.

Lol of course neither me nor anyone else who’s reasonable seriously thinks Todd actively tries to lose. That’s why I said “it’s like Mclellan doesn’t want to win”. Because putting Jesse with Caggiula and Khaira is so very stupid.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Lol of course neither me nor anyone else who’s reasonable seriously thinks Todd actively tries to lose. That’s why I said “it’s like Mclellan doesn’t want to win”. Because putting Jesse with Caggiula and Khaira is so very stupid.

Oh, that came off wrong. I wasn't mocking you. I was mocking Todd by putting out the only "reasonable" reason why he's doing what he's doing.

 

[McJazz]

Oh, that came off wrong. I wasn't mocking you. I was mocking Todd by putting out the only "reasonable" reason why he's doing what he's doing.

Oh I see, sorry for assuming you meant it that way. Now I’m totally with you!

 

[Llamamoto]

I don't know man. This might be the best option for Pulju.

Step 1. Lose all confidence and trust in his talent and skills.
Step 2. Become a full on grinder who has limited ability, can't make tape to tape passes or add anything of substance in the line-up.
Step 3. Start getting called "Cagg-two-la", as Toddy loves these traits in players.
Step 4. Get top 6 ice time without ever deserving it.

I call it the Caggiula effect.

Nailed it, except for step 4. No matter how bad Pulju ever plays, he ain't getting top 6 time.

 

[oobga]

I'm convinced that McLellan is just trolling Oilers fans at this point. Dude wants his pay cheque for free.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Oh I see, sorry for assuming you meant it that way. Now I’m totally with you!

Haha yeah, sorry about that. Read it back and was like "nooo, Todd is joke of all of this."

But yeah, I'm with you on this! When only conspiracy theories can explain his behaviours, then you know you're f***ed.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I don't know man. This might be the best option for Pulju.

Step 1. Lose all confidence and trust in his talent and skills.
Step 2. Become a full on grinder who has limited ability, can't make tape to tape passes or add anything of substance in the line-up.
Step 3. Start getting called "Cagg-two-la", as Toddy loves these traits in players.
Step 4. Get top 6 ice time without ever deserving it.

I call it the Caggiula effect.

You forgot a step: Learn English. It is more important than any hockey-related skills, especially on the PP.

 

[Aerrol]

You forgot a step: Learn English. It is more important than any hockey-related skills, especially on the PP.

Every power play practice session opens with a quiz on vocab and grammar. If you get even one question wrong, YOU'RE OFF.

 

[CupofOil]

It's almost surreal seeing that lineup. It's unbelievable (or should I say believable) that Pulju continues to fester in the bottom 6 while Yamamoto, who hasn't done jack shit against NHL lineups, continues to get fed top 6 minutes.

It's not like Pulju has done much either but how can he when he gets zero trust from his coaches. I'm not even upset about it anymore, I'm just sad about it at this point.

I have a question for the few who still defend Mclellan. Who has developed in his 3 years here? McDavid doesn't count.
What bothers me is that I was very happy with the hire, unlike the previous ones in the DoD. I thought that they finally hired a qualified individual who wasn't a dinosaur (with all due respect to the late Pat Quinn) and this is what we get? It sucks man.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

So is it Puljujarvi being demoted, or Strome being demoted?

The way Stauffer was describing the lines, he referred to Caggiula/Khaira/Puljujarvi as the 3rd line and Strome/Kassian/Reider as the 4th.

So going off of your thinking Caggiula went from PB to the 3rd line? Khaira who mostly played wing in preseason now plays C when we have a proven veteran in Brodziak getting healthy scratched?

It’s just so damn stupid. He had a great preseason and one game in he gets demoted to play with Caggiula and Khaira. It’s like Mclellan doesn’t want to win.

It's like Todd holds grudges and would rather keep sticking it to the guy that he doesn't like than putting the team above his own ego.

Could be. The true proof will be which line gets more minutes and offensive zone starts when the game actually happens.

I mean, it's not a stretch to think that McLellan's more negative on Strome right now than Pulju. Strome dragged down his entire line vs. NJ, and was eaten alive in the faceoff dot.

Not to mention, all through preseason the Strome/Pulju/Khaira line was considered the '3rd' line. So now Strome is moved off the line and replaced by Caggiula, and suddenly they're the 4th line now? I guess we'll see.

Players at the end of last year most notably our captain "It's hard to gain momentum when the lines are always changing". Todd even alluded to this this preseason so what was our 2nd best line in preseason gets the axe after a single game? Do as I say not as I do.

Unless this is an odd showcase of Strome or dumber we are looking at walking way from Brodziak, this makes no ****ing sense at all.

 

[FlameChampion]

I'm convinced that McLellan is just trolling Oilers fans at this point. Dude wants his pay cheque for free.

Really makes you wonder. Its either that or he lets the players have too much influence on personnel choices, which I hope isnt the case.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Todd wanted Gul. They had a good time in Saskatchewan. End of story.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

It's almost surreal seeing that lineup. It's unbelievable (or should I say believable) that Pulju continues to fester in the bottom 6 while Yamamoto, who hasn't done jack **** against NHL lineups, continues to get fed top 6 minutes.

It's not like Pulju has done much either but how can he when he gets zero trust from his coaches. I'm not even upset about it anymore, I'm just sad about it at this point.

I have a question for the few who still defend Mclellan. Who has developed in his 3 years here? McDavid doesn't count.
What bothers me is that I was very happy with the hire, unlike the previous ones in the DoD. I thought that they finally hired a qualified individual who wasn't a dinosaur (with all due respect to the late Pat Quinn) and this is what we get? It sucks man.

I like Yamo but was thinking the same thing. If the sole purpose is keeping his 2nd contract down, they may well do that while also ruining the best prospect that we've had outside of McDavid and maybe Drai since RNH and Hall. He plays a two way game so it's not like he is unaware of playing a two way game. We have one Lucic to bulldoze everyone out there and Kassian who SHOULD be doing it, Jesse needs to play a skilled game Todd, he wasn't drafted as a Smyth type you hard headed son of a gun.

 

[nabob]

Hahahahaha man. This has been going on for over a decade. You have no idea.

I'm sure this latest demotion 'just makes good sense' though, right guys? Just making Pulju earn that power play time and.. Uh... Third line... Time... Like Kassian totally has...

Well when you compare their respective preseasons it should be very obvious who the more consistent player was and who has earned the promotion right?

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Todd wanted Gul. They had a good time in Saskatchewan. End of story.

It makes me wonder what type of good times Toddy has had with Caggiula.