Player Discussion Jesse Puljujarvi '18-19 Season Part 5, Jesse Bumped Up the Line-up

[McDNicks17]

At this point, they should just loan him back to Karpat, leave him there for a couple years, hope he learns how to play hockey again and then maybe consider bringing him back.

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

At this point, they should just loan him back to Karpat, leave him there for a couple years, hope he learns how to play hockey again and then maybe consider bringing him back.

I disagree.

I think he needs to stay in N/A, just not the NHL.

He was doing just fine before we recalled him again. It seems he can score in the AHL, which would allow him to focus on improving other aspects of his game, and develop confidence in his scoring again.

 

[McDNicks17]

I disagree.

I think he needs to stay in N/A, just not the NHL.

He was doing just fine before we recalled him again. It seems he can score in the AHL, which would allow him to focus on improving other aspects of his game, and develop confidence in his scoring again.

It's the NHL or waivers next year.

I think you'd be better off giving him a QO, having him agree not to sign it and let him play in Finland.

 

[Soundwave]

His waiver eligibility is up next season, so I think the best thing to do would be to send him down and play the rest of the season in the AHL at this point.

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

It's the NHL or waivers next year.

I think you'd be better off giving him a QO, having him agree not to sign it and let him play in Finland.

Ah I see, I wasn't aware of the waiver requirement next year. If he continues to fail to produce here until the end of the season, I could get behind that idea.

I'd really like him to develop into a 25/25 guy who forechecks like a monster and plays a solid 200' game, and I don't see that happening here.

 

[Stoneman89]

Keep him up here so another coach can "ruin him".

 

[Dazed and Confused]

He's not looking bad, but he's barely treading water. Not the worst for a 20YO, but you need to ask "why?".

Why keep him (and Yama) out of a good situation in Bakersfield? A place where they can actually put up good numbers and feel confident about their games.

Right now Pulju and Yama don't bring much more than Rattie, so why keep them up? The AHL is a better place for someone who's 20 than a flawed NHL roster. Especially if you're not going to give them PP time.

 

[McDNicks17]

He's not looking bad, but he's barely treading water. Not the worst for a 20YO, but you need to ask "why?".

Why keep him (and Yama) out of a good situation in Bakersfield? A place where they can actually put up good numbers and feel confident about their games.

Right now Pulju and Yama don't bring much more than Rattie, so why keep them up? The AHL is a better place for someone who's 20 than a flawed NHL roster. Especially if you're not going to give them PP time.

I think the simple answer is there's no better options.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I think the simple answer is there's no better options.

Currently, sure. But hell, I'd rather have had Zykov do nothing on the NHL roster and Pulju show a pulse in the AHL, vs. Jesse struggling to just keep his head above water.

Scherbak should be an easy claim to accomplish the same end.

 

[McDNicks17]

Currently, sure. But hell, I'd rather have had Zykov do nothing on the NHL roster and Pulju show a pulse in the AHL, vs. Jesse struggling to just keep his head above water.

Scherbak should be an easy claim to accomplish the same end.

I don't disagree, but Hitch seems to like him for some reason and Chia needs him to turn out to save some face.

 

[Soundwave]

Send Puljujarvi and Yamamoto (when healthy) down to the AHL and keep them there for the rest of the year.

Go acquire Patrick Maroon for a bag of peanuts for the rest of the season.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Send Puljujarvi and Yamamoto (when healthy) down to the AHL and keep them there for the rest of the year.

Go acquire Patrick Maroon for a bag of peanuts for the rest of the season.

Maroon would actually be a decent fit atm.

Maroon-McDavid-Draisaitl
Scherbak-RNH-Chiasson
Lucic-Spooner-Rieder/Rattie
Khaira-Brodziak-Kassian

That looks a little better.

 

[Soundwave]

Maroon would actually be a decent fit atm.

Maroon-McDavid-Draisaitl
Scherbak-RNH-Chiasson
Lucic-Spooner-Rieder/Rattie
Khaira-Brodziak-Kassian

That looks a little better.

It's not even about appearances at this point, team's season is probably done.

Puljujarvi and Yamamoto aren't ready for the NHL, keeping them here is not smart. Send them down and keep them there.

 

[29292929]

I was soso excited when he fell to the Oilers but honestly I don't think the Oilers should draft euro players anymore in the first round.

• The skip by the Finnish gm
• The pretty much snub by the National team because he was benched the entire time or healthy scratched
• The constant offsides and throwing the puck away
• Instead of going to open space he seems to go to the puck and crowd the puck carrier
• His overall lack of shooting or getting into position to shoot.
• After these past 2 years I hate to go to the side that maybe he just doesn't have it but I think we are there. I see a serious lack of hockey sense in the fast paced game of the NHL. Hitch loves his stick but only when JP doesn't have the puck be side when your taking the puck away from someone that means u lost it.

The 2015 draft killed us because of the Reinhardt trade and the 2016 draft could nuke us because the player that was a consensus pick might not be what everyone (other than Columbus) thought he would be. And you have to think Columbus's gm did his serious homework.

 

[Soundwave]

I was soso excited when he fell to the Oilers but honestly I don't think the Oilers should draft euro players anymore in the first round.

• The skip by the Finnish gm
• The pretty much snub by the National team because he was benched the entire time or healthy scratched
• The constant offsides and throwing the puck away
• Instead of going to open space he seems to go to the puck and crowd the luck carrier
• His overall lack of shooting or getting into position to shoot.
• After these past 2 years I hate to go to the side that maybe he just doesn't have it but I think we are there. I see a serious lack of hockey sense in the fast paced game of the NHL. Hitch loves his stick but only when JP doesn't have the puck be side when your taking the puck away from someone that means u lost it.

The 2015 draft killed us because of the Reinhardt trade and the 2016 draft could nuke us because the player that was a consensus pick might not be what everyone (other than Columbus) thought he would be. And you have to think Columbus's gm did his serious homework.

Yep, those two drafts combined with the Hall out/Lucic in master trade totally gutted us. You don't have the luxury of all three of those mistakes. You could even maaaaybe have gotten away with 2/3 dumb mistakes, but not 3/3.

 

[belair]

Serious question. Could we send this kid home for a season next year so he fills out physically and learns the bloody language? If Kurri's in his ear all year and he's learning the game in an environment that he's comfortable, maybe he comes back a year later with something more.

The kid is such an enigma. Top five talent and he's still a lumbering teenager three years after his draft.

Odds are he's traded in the coming weeks, but in the off chance we decide to keep him, maybe that's a better option for him instead of risking the waiver wire next season.

FYI, he scored as I'm writing this.

 

[space321]

low IQ goal tonight, not bad

 

[DerpMorg]

A broken clock is right twice a day too.

 

[XXIV97]

A broken clock is right twice a day too.

A broken clock can be repaired too

 

[Barrsy]

A broken clock can be repaired too

Maybe it needs a new battery?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Nice goal. looking more like these are the type he's going to have to make a living banging home. He lacks coordination so he's not ever going to be any Ryan Smyth around the net but he's hard to remove and he's obstinate enough he creates good chaos around the net.

Strange play. both defenders tried to move him out instead of tying up his stick. Usually I like D to take the body but didn't work on this one.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Maybe it needs a new battery?

We thought we drafted a

What we got so far is...

 

[Cam98]

Nice goal. looking more like these are the type he's going to have to make a living banging home. He lacks coordination so he's not ever going to be any Ryan Smyth around the net but he's hard to remove and he's obstinate enough he creates good chaos around the net.

Strange play. both defenders tried to move him out instead of tying up his stick. Usually I like D to take the body but didn't work on this one.

he lacks coordination because he hasn't filled into his body yet. He probably wont fill in for another 1-2 years then once that happens he will take sometime to adjust to it and coordination should improve like with Rantanen. He looked like Bambi on skates before he filled out and improved in AHL.

 

[ImmuneEH]

Lol man. In training camp it looked like he was ready to take this season by storm. Was carrying the puck with such speed and authority, making plays. Then when the season starts he's back to his timid self. Seems like he 2nd guesses everything he does and gets down on himself after an error.

 

[Zaddy]

Nice goal. looking more like these are the type he's going to have to make a living banging home. He lacks coordination so he's not ever going to be any Ryan Smyth around the net but he's hard to remove and he's obstinate enough he creates good chaos around the net.

Strange play. both defenders tried to move him out instead of tying up his stick. Usually I like D to take the body but didn't work on this one.

Yeah, these are the type of goals I want to see him score. I've said it before but this is in my mind the best way for Jesse to make himself useful as an NHLer. Use his size and reach around the net to score garbage goals or set up teammates. He probably doesn't like it since he's always been a skill player, but if he's gonna be an NHLer I think this is the role he has to adapt to.