Injury Report: Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Part IX)

[Archijerej]

I remember how every year we had a discussion about Galchenyuk getting stronger. How it would be essential to increase the effectiveness of his game, as he was naturally slowing it down. Galchenyuk would post cool photos of him working out and many here couldn't find words good enough to describe how great of a chap he was. And then he'd come back next year and bounce off the opponents in every puck battle as always. Just a thought...

 

[the valiant effort]

I remember how every year we had a discussion about Galchenyuk getting stronger. How it would be essential to increase the effectiveness of his game, as he was naturally slowing it down. Galchenyuk would post cool photos of him working out and many here couldn't find words good enough to describe how great of a chap he was. And then he'd come back next year and bounce off the opponents in every puck battle as always. Just a thought...

There is no comparison between the two. KK's brain alone has him light years ahead of Galchenyuk. In a normal draft, Galchenyuk goes 20th+ overall. Unfortunately for our cursed franchise he went 3rd.

 

[Habs Halifax]

There is no comparison between the two. KK's brain alone has him light years ahead of Galchenyuk. In a normal draft, Galchenyuk goes 20th+ overall. Unfortunately for our cursed franchise he went 3rd.

Agreed. Sucks that the 12 and 13 draft years were weak and we had all those picks. Quite the difference in story between 12/13 and 17/18... Similar picks but the results are different due to how deep the drafts are.

Same hype and hope between Galchenyuk at 18 vs Kotkaniemi at 18 but the games they play are completely different. Kotkaniemi is a very intelligent center.

 

[le_sean]

I remember how every year we had a discussion about Galchenyuk getting stronger. How it would be essential to increase the effectiveness of his game, as he was naturally slowing it down. Galchenyuk would post cool photos of him working out and many here couldn't find words good enough to describe how great of a chap he was. And then he'd come back next year and bounce off the opponents in every puck battle as always. Just a thought...

Galchenyuk was working out with his dad rather than a real trainer. It also seemed he was more interested in posting videos of himself shirtless than he was in taking his workouts seriously.

 

[Montreal Impact FC]

I remember how every year we had a discussion about Galchenyuk getting stronger. How it would be essential to increase the effectiveness of his game, as he was naturally slowing it down. Galchenyuk would post cool photos of him working out and many here couldn't find words good enough to describe how great of a chap he was. And then he'd come back next year and bounce off the opponents in every puck battle as always. Just a thought...

you are right, we dont need Kotka to gain 30 pounds.. we need to maybe gain 15 pounds over the next 2 years or so.. 6'2" - 6'3" 205- 210 pounds seems like ideal.

there is also examples of players losing weight and becoming way better for example Mckinnon.

 

[Archijerej]

There is no comparison between the two. KK's brain alone has him light years ahead of Galchenyuk. In a normal draft, Galchenyuk goes 20th+ overall. Unfortunately for our cursed franchise he went 3rd.

That's true. But he won't be able to utilize his vision consistently if he can't protect the puck. He won't evade opponents with skating.

 

[ahmedou]

Source The Athletic:

Kotkaniemi wasn’t at liberty to say much else about the injury other than assuring it was not a big deal, it in no way affected his play during the season and will have no lingering effects. Also, this is not the same knee he seriously injured three years ago, costing him about six months of action.

Also: first time in his lifetime where he'll go 21 weeks without playing any hockey which bodes well for training.

Kotkaniemi learning how to be "transparent" with the habs style...

He'll be finally free.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

A bunch of Flyers fans on the main boards were trying to argue that Patrick was as good as Kotka so I made this poll. KK won by a landslide.

Kotkaniemi vs Patrick

 

[LaP]

I wouldn't want to be right, I just know I'll be. I'm honest with myself and I can look at thing without being unbiased, theres no reasons Danault should ever be moved from his spot because he's not going to get magically worse, he's going to give the same perfomance for 2-3-4 years still, and the same narrative will come back: "Danault is our best 2-way center! Do you want Jesperi to face the toughest matchups ?"... Etc. Ive seen it before, and history repeats itself, you can see the same thing in the world with the rise of the right.

I don't think you'll be. If Danault remains in our top 6 we wont go anywhere. The guy struggle to score 15 goals. It wont be enough in playoffs as a top 6 player.

 

[Mrb1p]

I don't think you'll be. If Danault remains in our top 6 we wont go anywhere. The guy struggle to score 15 goals. It wont be enough in playoffs as a top 6 player.

But why would he be moved off ? What kind of standards does that set for the actual player ?

 

[Lebowski]

A bunch of Flyers fans on the main boards were trying to argue that Patrick was as good as Kotka so I made this poll. KK won by a landslide.

Kotkaniemi vs Patrick

I guess that settles it then.

The poll section has spoken.

 

[Wats]

There is no comparison between the two. KK's brain alone has him light years ahead of Galchenyuk. In a normal draft, Galchenyuk goes 20th+ overall. Unfortunately for our cursed franchise he went 3rd.

That's pretty bad revisionist history. How many 20th+overall can play in the NHL draft +1 and +2 and get 58 points in 113 games (and 6pts in 10 playoff games).

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Ya Galchenyuk was definitely a top 10/15 type of talent most years, but there were some red flags (the knee injury took away an entire year of scouting information) we looked past due to a lack of elite players at the top. That said, we still passed on some great players like Morgan Reilly and Filip Forsberg for him. Galchenyuk is a great cautionary tale on the importance of IQ and Compete level. When you are lacking in both of those areas, it's very difficult to be more than a PP specialist despite excellent skills. Throw in mediocre skating, and that's what you have.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Ya Galchenyuk was definitely a top 10/15 type of talent most years, but there were some red flags (the knee injury took away an entire year of scouting information) we looked past due to a lack of elite players at the top. That said, we still passed on some great players like Morgan Reilly and Filip Forsberg for him. Galchenyuk is a great cautionary tale on the importance of IQ and Compete level. When you are lacking in both of those areas, it's very difficult to be more than a PP specialist despite excellent skills. Throw in mediocre skating, and that's what you have.

Bergevin wanted Morgan Reilly. Bergevin didn't get Morgan Reilly.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Bergevin wanted Morgan Reilly. Bergevin didn't get Morgan Reilly.

It was a classic example of drafting for need- we had Beaulieu and needed a C. Now we have Cs and need an LD!

That said, I'm thrilled with Domi.

 

[Teufelsdreck]

I remember how every year we had a discussion about Galchenyuk getting stronger. How it would be essential to increase the effectiveness of his game, as he was naturally slowing it down. Galchenyuk would post cool photos of him working out and many here couldn't find words good enough to describe how great of a chap he was. And then he'd come back next year and bounce off the opponents in every puck battle as always. Just a thought...

Galchenyuk got stronger--he morphed into Max Domi.

 

[Tyson]

Kotkaniemi with a bit more weight, strength, experience will become a legitimate #1 Center. What struck me watching him this past season was how responsible he was in his own zone. You could just see his on ice intelligence in action.

 

[cphabs]

Any word on his knee?

 

[montreal]

Any word on his knee?

I heard it's still there.

 

[cphabs]

I heard it's still there.

bout time you lightened up

 

[montreal]

bout time you lightened up

good day at work after a ugly few weeks will do that.


I read he isn't expected to be impacted at all by the knee that it was something very minor. It was likely just cleaning up something since he was considering playing for Team Finland at the WC's but opted to take care of this now so clearly it wasn't anything of issue.

 

[cphabs]

good day at work after a ugly few weeks will do that.


I read he isn't expected to be impacted at all by the knee that it was something very minor. It was likely just cleaning up something since he was considering playing for Team Finland at the WC's but opted to take care of this now so clearly it wasn't anything of issue.

Thanks brother!

 

[Rafafouille]

Ya Galchenyuk was definitely a top 10/15 type of talent most years, but there were some red flags (the knee injury took away an entire year of scouting information) we looked past due to a lack of elite players at the top. That said, we still passed on some great players like Morgan Reilly and Filip Forsberg for him. Galchenyuk is a great cautionary tale on the importance of IQ and Compete level. When you are lacking in both of those areas, it's very difficult to be more than a PP specialist despite excellent skills. Throw in mediocre skating, and that's what you have.

Honestly, what a garbage draft, especially for forwards. The first 4 picks are busts(I mean, galchenyuk and Murray have nhl careers but they're nothing special), then you have Wilson who's okay, hertl, forsberg and terravainen who are great but not elite game changers. 5-6-7-9 were great for defenseman though, rielly, lindholm, dumba and Trouba nearly all back to back. Pretty hilarious that Pittsburgh drafts at 8 and gets the only bust with pouillot when they desperately needed D.

 

[FF de Mars]

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[yianik]

I think a nice surprise will be when Kotkaniemi gets on the PK. His anticipation will give other teams fits.