McKenzie: Jeff Carter might retire rather than accept a trade

[Viqsi]

The idiot GM done us wrong.

Carter had just signed an 11 years deal with a NTC which kicked in a year later when he was traded to our hockey mecca. Howson (the GM) never reached out to Carter or his agent about a possible trade. When someone has just signed an 11 year deal when there's a NTC clause kicking in a year later, it would have been standard due diligence to contact the player or his rep.

Given that the reaction was literally unprecedented in recent league history, I don't think you can lean on "but I really hate Scott Howson" as a fallback position.

 

[member 88115]

That’s not the point. I’m saying *if* it’s true, then . . .

To trash (u called it a dickish move) Carter for something he has not said is plainly wrong.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Given that the reaction was literally unprecedented in recent league history, I don't think you can lean on "but I really hate Scott Howson" as a fallback position.

Show me another player who signed an 11 year deal who got traded before he played a game with the team with whom he signed. There is no precedent.

You and your silly red herrings.

 

[Viqsi]

Show me another player who signed an 11 year deal who got traded before he played a game with the team with whom he signed. There is no precedent.

Carter played plenty of games with the Flyers.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Carter played plenty of games with the Flyers.

Not under the 11 year deal. He played 0.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to accept that Howson botched this. It was a distinct possibility that Carter would be very unhappy with a trade-and that's what happened.

 

[therealkoho]

Love it.

Retire as a King Jeff.



How about playing for a last placed team ?


Is this too difficult to understand.

it's also not to difficult to understand that his slow and indifferent play is part of the Kings being in last place

 

[Viqsi]

I don't know why it's so hard for you to accept that Howson botched this.

Easy. It's not that I think Howson didn't make a mistake; it's that his mistake is no excuse for how Carter acted. There's "unhappy with a trade" and then there's "unprecedented unprofessionalism to the point that it still casts a shadow years later." If he didn't do that, do you think McKenzie and Friedman would have made such comments?

Doug MacLean traded for plenty of guys who didn't want to stick around. But they at least were professionals about it.

 

[and 99 others]

this might be a tad harsh but if I was a GM why would I even consider this guy. $5.2 Mil per year for a 60 point scorer and an absolute locker room cancer? No thanks

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

 

[dire wolf]

To trash (u called it a dickish move) Carter for something he has not said is plainly wrong.

Go back and read my post. I said *if* it's true, then it's a dickish move. How is that "plainly wrong." At most, you have a different opinion.

 

[Fro]

it's sad, my obvious bias aside, Carts is pretty much the exact player CBJ need for their run...strong faceoffs, typically clutch goals....

 

[Crede777]

Not under the 11 year deal. He played 0.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to accept that Howson botched this. It was a distinct possibility that Carter would be very unhappy with a trade-and that's what happened.

I don't see how you can hang that on Howson.

Howson should not be contacting another team's player before he becomes a player for that team. It would fall under tampering.

The party who did wrong was Paul Holmgren by essentially blindsiding Carter after giving him an assurance he wouldn't be traded and then not being open with Howson about the situation.

Carter should have refused to report, the Jackets lobby the league to undo the trade due to this unforeseen circumstance, and then Carter either reports to Philly or has his contract terminated. If he became a free agent, he probably gets more money since his contract extension in Philly was for a hometown discount.

Looks like Carter has learned his lesson though by threatening preemptively to retire.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

Yes, but the rumor here is that he would only retire if he is traded. It's not a situation where he decides he just can't play any more.

It's not if he gets traded his gonna retire. They said it could be a possibility that he could retire if he doesn't like the team he is being traded too. So if he goes to a team he'd be okay to play for then he'd play. But if he went to a team say like Arizona...he would contempt retirement. So it's more LA or a team he approves.

 

[jw2]

I imagine he will be an agent for his kid with hartnells wife, eventually. Can’t wait for that drama. Nylander + Lindros + Carter + Janney drama.

 

[dire wolf]

It's not if he gets traded his gonna retire. They said it could be a possibility that he could retire if he doesn't like the team he is being traded too. So if he goes to a team he'd be okay to play for then he'd play. But if he went to a team say like Arizona...he would contempt retirement. So it's more LA or a team he approves.

Same thing. Sounds like he should have negotiated for a modified NMC. It's really hard to have any empathy for any player who refuses to go to any city in the NHL and get paid millions of dollars per year to play hockey. Especially when they travel so much during the season anyway, can spend the off-season wherever they like, can live like kings in any city in North America, and can retire in a few years at an extremely young age (compared to the real world) and live anywhere they want. Suck it up.

 

[Foppberg]

What a diva.

 

[Dr Quincy]

What a diva.

How dare he make decisions about his own career like a rational autonomous human being.

 

[Foppberg]

How dare he make decisions about his own career like a rational autonomous human being.

How dare he be a diva.

 

[Dr Quincy]

How dare he be a diva.

Look if your manager moves you from the fryer to the drive thru it would be totally fine if you decided to retire too.

 

[Tripod]

Look if your manager moves you from the fryer to the drive thru it would be totally fine if you decided to retire too.

Nope.

Working the drive thru is great especially in the summer.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Love it.

Retire as a King Jeff.



How about playing for a last placed team ?


Is this too difficult to understand.

The good conundrum: the chicken or the egg ?

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Sounds like a baby.

LA Kings motto.


































P.S. Kings fans -

It's a joke.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Wouldn't his value increase for some contenders? If he's willing to go there for 1 last run before he retires then there's no commitment long term. He's essentially an UFA.

 

[effen]

Some imaginary owners really don't like when players don't act like cattle.

 

[tradenashnow]

Tells me he has no desire to win. Just collecting a paycheck at this point. All teams should avoid him at all cost.