Which 5?
BTW I am not for firing Blashill, he is doing a great job with Hronek, Bertuzzi, Mantha, Larkin and Fabbri.
The team is losing and I am happy with it. I want to lose and get a top 3 pick.
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Which 5?
BTW I am not for firing Blashill, he is doing a great job with Hronek, Bertuzzi, Mantha, Larkin and Fabbri.
The team is losing and I am happy with it. I want to lose and get a top 3 pick.
That problem and the question is quite clear.
Howard's GAA is by 1 whole goal worse than Bernie's. That is huge. Howard has won 2 games, Bernie 8, 4 times as many.
Howard is the worst goalie in the league in both GAA and SV%
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I don't think hiring someone like Peter DeBoer to take over these last 40 some games, with the deadline(a hopeful blood letting of players) will elevate this team out of the best chances for the 1st and 2nd picks.
Even still... Assuming all is right, people know we only have a 35% chance to hold the 1st or 2nd picks. Might be better to get a good coach if you see one rather than just hold on to a guy for a 35% chance of what we want and continuing bad culture. Idk... i don't see a 10 game winning streak happening with any coach in the last 40 games is all I'm saying.
Even still... Assuming all is right, people know we only have a 35% chance to hold the 1st or 2nd picks. Might be better to get a good coach if you see one rather than just hold on to a guy for a 35% chance of what we want and continuing bad culture. Idk... i don't see a 10 game winning streak happening with any coach in the last 40 games is all I'm saying.
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Larkin is on pace for 50 points and 18 goals.
He's on pace for 10 ES goals after 23 last year.
Does anyone think Mantha/Bertuzzi/Fabbri/Hronek wouldn't produce with any coach given similar icetime?
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Fil Larkmanthanasiou
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I know they would produce more not playing for a stupid jerkoff.
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I do not see that I can discuss that topic. It is just speculating about something we would never know the answer.
One thing is for sure. Yzerman traded for Fabbri and Fabbri is doing great under Blashill.
1. I want the team to lose
2. I focus on
A. Hronek and Larkin
B. Fabbri, Mantha, Bertuzzi, Zadina
If this team was doing this bad and the players I mentioned were doing bad while neilsen, abby and other veterans were doing good, then I would be worried about the coach.
Anyhow, the team has to lose so we get a top draft pick.
And what's your point?
I wrote top 3. We all know there is no guarantee to get 1st overall. The league has done this so the team do not lose on purpose, the teams have to compete. However you cant find core players without picking top 3.
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The odds say you wouldn't win it in 5 years straight. Which... is kind of awful. I still can't get over this dumb lottery system. The 17th place team should not have a single percentage point at the #1 overall pick. Why the hell is that even possible?
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personally I actually think it's kind of nice that a team stuck in a limbo of never being bad enough to get a good pick or good enough to accomplish anything has a tiny glimmer of hope like that
maybe it shouldn't be first overall though,perhaps there should be some sort of limiter in how far they can rise like when the Devils won the lottery in 2011 and picked 4th
I guess maybe somewhere in between that and what we have now would probably be my ideal?
I think it means a team that already has great pieces but maybe had injury issues could end up with the #1 overall while a team completely bottomed out could continue to take leftovers. Ew.
Anyway, about Blash, at this point I think you let him ride out the year. Can't see much point making any changes at this point other than to send a message, I guess. And so much depends how much this current roster actually likes the guy. Jettisoning a popular coach in the middle of this disaster won't exactly inspire different results.
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The Sharks are proof that a coaching change doesn't always help. They looked more pathetic than the Wings last night. Jimmy Howard could have won that game.
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Edmonton won lots of #1's, and they're still Edmonton.
Kenny has his work cut out with their defense, although he's a very large part of the reason the Wings are in the hole they are now, so many failed 2nd rounders.
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Yeah should only be say the bottom 5 teams that can win #1 overall, with the odds around 50% for the last place team.
That way there's still some incentive against outright tanking for a specific prospect because there's at best a 50% chance of winning. But that would also ensure that a team in the basement would have a reasonable expectation of winning the lottery within a few years should they need to rebuild.
As a Hawks fan who lives in Michigan, I remember all the Wings fans whining about how Chicago sucked and got Toews, Kane etc and how last place teams shouldn’t always get the 1st pick and whatnot. I remember thinking how silly that concept was. As a Hawks fan who lives in Michigan, I still think if Detroit finishes last they get at least AT LEAST a 50% chance at 1st overall. It’s how it works. It’s how it’s always worked because it’s right. Plus, I don’t mind knowing Stevie Y is gonna right the ship Holland drove into the ground.
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It doesn't work like that anymore though. Last place team has an 18.5% chance at 1st or something like that.
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There are probably several teams in the same situation. We were dead things.
Basically I disagree with the majority of the posters in this thread and on this board.
I do not see the point of discussing the coach at this point. It has no to very little of importance where this franchise is heading.
The focus has to be building the team (Yzerman), drafting talent, development of young players, core players, trading veterans, getting rid of bad contracts, signing FAs.
It seems to me the brass has decided to tank this season, so I have no problem with losing games.
Another thing, do we need our best offensive player to be the enforcer of the team?
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I know that, my comment was addressing him saying it was 50%, not complaining about our chances.
Yeah, I meant to say “SHOULD” get at least a 50% chance of 1st overall. Or weight it by points at the end of the season.
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Wings have a 50-50 chance of picking 4th. So half the time the worst team in the league picks 4th overall. That is messed up. I think 33% is fair for #1OA for the worst team, a 1 in 3 chance. A 50% chance is coin flip odds at getting the targeted generational player teams tank for is still going to see tanking.
