News Article: JC says veterans have right attitude
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Blue Liner
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You go to da box and feel shame.
Hawkaholic
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Exactly. We are out on Panarin right now, but we have Saad. So instead of having Saad right now, we could have had a young blue liner, like you mentioned, for Panarin.
TLEH
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JC in his post game said, “they played like men and we didnt”....
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Nothing like kicking your boys while they’re down. This guy won’t last talking like that in the media
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Nothing like kicking your boys while they’re down. This guy won’t last talking like that in the media
BK
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I disagree here. They played like shit and should get called for it. We vs They. They have consistently failed to show up in the first. Last night was no different.
Blue Liner
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TLEH
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With the way Q never tossed the guys under the bus like that, I can see it being a big negative, especially in today’s day and age
BK
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RayP
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I’d rather he call them out vs trying to convince people that everything is alright and make excuses.
Blue Liner
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Q also didn't hesitate to call guys out. It wasn't that blunt, but he made things very clear over time when he thought somebody was bad and didn't hesitate to do so in his own way. I don't have an issue with it, and it being different than what happened previously is probably not the worst thing. You made a change for a reason. See how it goes.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
Blue Liner
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"Okay" or "just okay" was basically a kiss of death to that player's performance that game.
ColdSteel2
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And it’s also the better way to handle people. They get the message but you don’t embarrass them.
BK
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They don’t need to be treated like special snowflakes either. If they played like shit there is nothing wrong with saying so.
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RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
I don't think there's anything wrong with either approach. Each approach will create a different response from different players.
Some people need to be screamed at to be motivated, some people need a gentle nudge. I'm guessing each coach knows what style certain players they're trying to reach respond best to.
If the core responds best to being called out, then Colliton obviously did the right thing last night.
BK
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What he said was not even bad. They were out played and out worked, this is a fact.
How the teams plays in the first embarrassing.
ChiHawks10
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They're grown men. Not kids to be coddled(and I have a problem doing it with kids even). Biggest issue with this country these days is the "p***yfication" of America. Everybody makes the team, everybody wins, everybody gets a trophy. There's no last place, only a last winner. It is out of control. There's nothing to drive kids to be better, and to accomplish more, and to work harder, anymore. No motivation for them to do it. Which is why I pushed my daughter super hard with her cheerleading this year, and learning her gymnastics/tumbling stuff for it, etc. She was upset they got last place in their first competition of the year. Driving home she's crying, and whining, the whole 9 yards. I told her to stop crying. I told her that means she, and the rest of the team need to work harder, practice harder, and be better. I asked her if she knew who Michael Jordan was. She answered yes, he's the best basketball player ever, and played for the Bulls. And I told her how he got cut from his high school team. And how it drove him to be better, to practice harder, and work harder. And look where it got him. She listened. She practiced a ton. The team practiced hard. And saw results.
Her cheerleading squad(with 75% of the girls being new to the team and in their first year) proceeded to take 1st in the next competition, 2nd in the following one, and 1st in the last one of the year, a big one - Super CDA, where they were also grand master champions of that competition, with the highest score of the tournament through 3 age brackets.
Don't coddle the kids. They're more resilient than people give them credit for. Motivate them to be better. Through equal parts compassion, tough love, and honesty.
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BK
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It is all about balance. I don't think he has tilted one way or the other.
On one side you have people screaming about the CC atmosphere and the other you have people saying that he is too mean, what do people really want? (there is some intentional exaggeration)
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
Hawkaholic
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I agree. Zero issue with him telling the truth.
BK
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I don't think JC is the Torts type coach but I don't think he is Q either. I hope he is a balance of both like we saw a bit in Rockford.
To be clear, Q was special in how he was able to handle the room but you have to have some clout to be able to do what he did. This is part of why he lasted a decade.
To be clear, Q was special in how he was able to handle the room but you have to have some clout to be able to do what he did. This is part of why he lasted a decade.
TLEH
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This has nothing to do with the “p***yfication of America” or everybody gets a trophy culture. I just think you can rip them in the room, rip them in private, ripping them to the media is garbage and I’ve always hated it. Everyone’s got an opinion and that’s fine, just that’s mine. You keep everything in house.
This isn’t Rockford where guys are trying to like find their game or whatever. A lot of these guys are old and just don’t have it anymore. It’s calling out people who just don’t have it
This isn’t Rockford where guys are trying to like find their game or whatever. A lot of these guys are old and just don’t have it anymore. It’s calling out people who just don’t have it
ChiHawks10
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There's basically like two players on this team that "just don't have it" anymore. Seabs, and Kunitz.(and a couple who never had it). The rest deserve to be ripped. Why not to the media? It shows the fanbase that the players will be held accountable if playing terrible. Again, these are grown men. It shouldn't embarrass them. It should piss them off, and make them want to play better. It should motivate them to be better. I get why he would do it. If nothing else is working to motivate them, maybe this will?
I respect your opinion, just don't agree with it.
The p***yfication of America was only brought up by me because everyone is afraid to hold people accountable these days. Everyone is afraid to not be PC. Everyone is afraid to hurt someone's feelings. f*** that. Tell it like it is. If someone looks like shit, then say it. Don't coddle them. That does nothing for them. It's a disservice to them.
ColdSteel2
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That’s where I’m at. Keep it behind closed doors. Calling them out in the media isn’t helping anyway, try something else.
