I'd be pissed, too. Comparing Benn to Modano is a huge reduction of Modano.
Gasp Modano answered a question differently than Stars fans wanted him to again let us all rip him for it.
Yep, you picked out the thing that Modano is better than Benn at. Certainly not anything hockey related.
Personally, I think people are putting too much on Benn's shoulders. Not calling him "the new Modano" or whatever would probably be for the best. Not exactly the kind of pressure you want on the guy who will hopefully be your best player for years to come. I just think Modano could have said it better, but then again, Modano has always been like that.
Doesn't mean Modano has to hate the kid. I don't see a big of a surprise with fans begin upset that the former face of the franchise wants to be passive aggressive against the next. It's a pretty valid reaction.
I think this is known in the psychology world as "the recency effect"
I'll say it right now. Benn is the next Modano. I'm being 100% serious. I believe he is, and I won't apologize for it.Honestly I've never seen anyone say Benn is the next Modano. Unless they just mean face of the franchise, but no one has ever said Benn will have as great of a career as Mo, or be as good of a player.
Honestly I've never seen anyone say Benn is the next Modano. Unless they just mean face of the franchise, but no one has ever said Benn will have as great of a career as Mo, or be as good of a player.
Doesn't mean Modano has to hate the kid. I don't see a big of a surprise with fans begin upset that the former face of the franchise wants to be passive aggressive against the next. It's a pretty valid reaction.
I'll say it right now. Benn is the next Modano. I'm being 100% serious. I believe he is, and I won't apologize for it.
Here's something to think about:
OK, we all know Modano had some gaudy point totals early in his career. His 93 point season during the team's last year in Minnesota is often cited as example of his greatness. He was 22. No way Benn can match that at the same age, right?
Well, you've got to look at the context of the era. When was Modano scoring all those points? How was the game played? Those 93 points translated to a 1.13 points-per-game. Impressive, sure -- until you realize that wasn't even good enough to get in the Top-20 league-wide. Not really even that close. Brett Hull came in at #20 with 1.26 points-per-game. Modano wasn't in the top-20 if you just go by raw points either.
Fast-forward to the present day. Benn's also 22. He's been playing at his current level for about a year. It'd be hard to call this a hot streak or a blip on the radar. Right now he's sitting at 1.02 points-per-game this season. That's 11th best in the NHL.
So far, he's doing better compared to his peers, at the same age, in a climate that places much more emphasis on systems, checking, and defense.
And that's just points. Benn is already a far more advanced player defensively than Modano was.
Can he keep it up? That's always the question. If he can, he absolutely will have as great of a career as Modano -- and then some. Franchise players tend to come around every 20 years or so. He's right on time.
I think when people hear or use the term "the next Modano" they are linking two separate aspects of what Modano represented. Nobody will ever be to the city of Dallas what Modano was but no other player will ever have that chance either. Modano was a great player - a true franchise player. Benn can never be the ambassador of hockey to this city the way Modano was but he can be this team's next franchise player, and I agree with you that he is that player.
I'll say it right now. Benn is the next Modano. I'm being 100% serious. I believe he is, and I won't apologize for it.
Here's something to think about:
OK, we all know Modano had some gaudy point totals early in his career. His 93 point season during the team's last year in Minnesota is often cited as example of his greatness. He was 22. No way Benn can match that at the same age, right?
Well, you've got to look at the context of the era. When was Modano scoring all those points? How was the game played? Those 93 points translated to a 1.13 points-per-game. Impressive, sure -- until you realize that wasn't even good enough to get in the Top-20 league-wide. Not really even that close. Brett Hull came in at #20 with 1.26 points-per-game. Modano wasn't in the top-20 if you just go by raw points either.
Fast-forward to the present day. Benn's also 22. He's been playing at his current level for about a year. It'd be hard to call this a hot streak or a blip on the radar. Right now he's sitting at 1.02 points-per-game this season. That's 11th best in the NHL.
So far, he's doing better compared to his peers, at the same age, in a climate that places much more emphasis on systems, checking, and defense.
And that's just points. Benn is already a far more advanced player defensively than Modano was.
Can he keep it up? That's always the question. If he can, he absolutely will have as great of a career as Modano -- and then some. Franchise players tend to come around every 20 years or so. He's right on time.
At first I thought it might be a byproduct of the AAC's liberal scorers since Morrow and Eriksson also appear in the Top-10 leaguewide in 5v5 secondary assists per 60. But that's not really a satisfactory explanation since Benn has more points on the road than he does at home.Another thing. I love Benn. He's by far my favorite player in the NHL, but you like your advanced statistics, what say you about his really high amount of secondary assists?
Benn probably has been a bit lucky this year with the secondary assists - Dallas players have a 11.78% shooting percentage when Benn is on the ice during even strength play - that's the highest of any player on the team. His own shooting percentage is 11.8% which I don't think is extra-ordinarily high for such a skilled player, but we wouldn't expect his less talented line mates to keep that up.
On the other hand you could make the (obvious) argument that Benn's superior play making skills are making life easier for his team mates and the assist totals are an accurate representation of that. People have struggled to find much in the way of correlation between any player and their ability to affect shooting percentage in other people, but it seems like a common sense argument that such a skill exists.
Maybe it's because I have a natural aversion to mathematics but it's this kind of argument or point of discussion that does nothing for me. Trying to rationalize with numbers what we all see with our own eyes may help some people come to grips with things on a holistic level, I get that. But something as "advanced" as team shooting % when a certain player is on the ice is still a very crude measurement. Does the team volume shoot when lesser skilled players are on the ice because they lack the creativity to generate any semblance of offense otherwise? Are less shots taken when Benn is on the ice versus any other moment for whatever reason at all? Or do they take more and happen to score at a better rate? Regardless of any of those answers, his mates scoring at a better rate per shot when he's on the ice brings things back to the old eye-ball test - the team is most dangerous when Benn is on the ice.
You can slice things up any way you want mathematically but at the end of the day people are left to make conclusions and subsequently make predictions based on those conclusions. As scientifically based as you want to make the thing it still takes a human mind to give the numbers any kind of meaning and human minds operate differently and can come to (similarly reasonable but) different conclusions based on the same data.
Jamie Benn isn't "picking up" secondary assists that inflate his point totals he's picking up an earned statistic based on his play in all areas of the ice.