Trouba was not 1st pair dman for the jets. Buff was and clearly was for every year that trouba played for the jets. When Buff was injured, they moved Trouba up to play more minutes but that doesnt make him the Jets top pair dman like you think. Any time Buff was in the lineup he was by far no question the 1st pair dman playing 25-26 minutes a night.
Your just contradicting yourself and you sound foolish. Trouba not a first pair D but when buff out injured ( I believe ankle or a concussion I can’t remember which) trouba was moved up? If he was moved up what pair does that make him? This is obviously the time frame I was talking about. As well as that year in the playoffs. You sound confused. To fit my narrative?? How bout to fit Your narrative ace? Did he play on first pair. Yes. Did he play on the PP and put up points? Yes. He was not on the first PP but was moved up when he cried?? So what unit would that make him on?? . If you were at every game I’m surprised you weren’t watching this take place. Fact of the matter was trouba and morrissey played first pair for the jets. I understand buff was injured but that does not dispute the fact that trouba and morrissey played well in their first pair role. But but but if buff was there...... if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. It doesn’t negate the fact that he was more then capable in an extended first pair role for half a season and into the playoffs
He was responding to my post, and I'm a Jets fan.
I didn't miss the point. It's not about Trouba having to be 8x better. We had no minute eating defender and going for 8x less Schenn at that time doesn't solve anything.
How can Flyers offer a better trade package than the Rangers when he is a on the Rangers? It’s pretty clear I’m talking about now not before he got that 8 million per contract. If I had to guess why Jets didn’t go with the Flyers offer of Cam York it’s because Flyers found out it was Rangers or Red Wings being the only teams Trouba would sign long term. Flyers are contending for a cup while Rangers are allegedly rebuilding. It makes sense for Flyers to overpay for a player with their mindset.
Are you really comparing the hart trophy winner with a 2nd pair Dman? I can give it more time but mention Philly or Jets is dumb considering he wasn’t signing long term. Perhaps bring up Red Wings as that was the only team he would sign with. I give Trouba and his agent credit for getting money for being a career 2nd pair Dman. I can’t wait to see Fox’s asking price.
Greedy? That’s the price Rangers paid. 2nd line roster player plus a first. The difference was Rangers paid that for 1 year control while Red Wings pay for 6 years of control.
Just to let you know Pionk ate more minutes than Trouba did last season. Rangers are looking to compete? I thought they were rebuilding? If competing is how they played against the Canes it’s time for a new plan and new GM. That was one of the worst performances I ever saw. If they are competing why did they hire Quinn? Could’ve had Trotz who could teach Defence like he did to Ovi.....
They definitely weren't fully competing and they've basically said they won't be this upcoming year completely either.
You asked who would trade for Trouba and my answer was possibly the flyers because it was rumored they believed there proposal to acquire him from the Jets was better than what NY offered. I think they would still be interested if the cap could work.
No I’m not comparing them as players to each other at all. Your missing the gist of what I’m saying contract and value wise at the time said players signed their current deals. It’s fine we agree to disagree. I just don’t know how you can crush Gorton and trouba In year 1 of a 7 year deal
Pionk was fine but he had Staal as a partner. He also played 21 min a game during 18/19 season. Letting go of MSL and trading Hags was a huge sign of a rebuild only to trade for Eric Staal. Trading Stepan for high draft pick and young RHD puck mover was a sign of a rebuild but signing Shattenkirk was not. I mean the Hawks signed Hossa because they wanted to win while Panarin signing you are saying to just be competitive.... Nah Gorton expected this roster to win the cup. Speaking of competitive look at what Trotz has done with Isles since 18/19 season the same year the fisherman hired Quinn
So Flyers offer Cam York and Morgan Frost along with 2021 first? I do that in a heartbeat
