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Player Discussion Jack Eichel Part 8 -- The Siege of Eichelgrad
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My Cozen Dylan
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You forgot Mangiapane.
Calgary’s fans have been dying for a shake up of the core. An Eichel for Tkachuk deal does that.
Gaudreau - Eichel - Lindholm
Mangiapane - Monahan - Coleman
Zman5778
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They'd probably play Mangiapane (or Dube?) with Jack and MT and Coleman with Backlund, I would think. That's a hellacious top 9.
Old Navy Goat
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That is a stupid idea. Tkachuk has 1yr left on his deal and then he's sitting there as an RFA with 1yr to go to UFA. So do you really want to rinse / repeat the Reinhart scenario again
My Cozen Dylan
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No, this would obviously be predicated on an extension being negotiated before the trade. As I and others have said many times.
Old Navy Goat
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Realistically why would he sign an extension to facilitate a trade to Buffalo when everyone can see they're going to be terrible? Especially considering he knows a 1yr arbitration takes him to UFA and StL
This is a good read about ADR vs Fusion if it hasn’t been posted yet.
K8fool
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Why would he? Doesn't matter. If he won't sign then move on. Honestly Calgary has other options also.
Monahan/Lindholm, top prospects, and picks.
I like getting a top 6 center to take pressure off Mittelstadt and Cozens.
Jim Bob
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I don't believe that Adams wants to get 26yo top 6 center in the Eichel deal.
Given what we have heard, Adams is prioritizing futures in an Eichel deal and not NHLers that have 2 or 3 years to UFA.
If Adams is talking with Calgary, I doubt he is focusing on players like Tkachuk, Monahan, or Lindholm as centerpieces to the deal. And I don't know that he would take say Monahan back to make things work for Calgary and their cap situation.
That also doesn't even get into the odds that Monahan would waive his NTC to come to Buffalo.
BloFan4Life
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So every doctor, besides the one making thousand on disc replacement, say to avoid disk replacement in contact sports. Who would have thought?!?!
Fusion should have been done months ago.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
I don't believe the Sabres would have OK'd fusion surgery while they were trying to trade him. Fusion has a 6-9 month timeline for return to play. Eichel having fusion surgery would likely have ended all trade talks until closer to the trade deadline after teams could see how rehab was going.
BloFan4Life
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Didn't the agent say they both agreed a surgery is necessary? Sabres wouldn't have a say if the Sabres doctors are saying the surgery is necessary.
If the surgery is necessary, what does it matter if the Sabres do it, or the team trading for him does it? All that would have happened is, he would be ready to go sooner by the Sabres doing it in beginning of June.
Jim Bob
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The release from Eichel's agent expressed frustration that the Sabres are not talking about next steps as the conservative approach seems to have not resolved the issue. The agent has said that they have been trying since early June to talk to the Sabres doctors about next steps and they have not gotten an answer.
I am going to go out on a limb and guess that Sabres management is driving that radio silence.
Even if there wasn't a lack of communication, you still have the disagreement over what surgery to have.
Other teams might be open to Eichel having the ADR surgery and not miss a huge chunk of the season. There is one report that Minnesota would allow Eichel to have the procedure of his choosing.
Plus, waiting de-risks things for the Sabres as it is the team that has acquired Eichel that has all the risk about whether the surgery and recovery goes well.
MarkusKetterer
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It would be awesome to acquire Gaudreau, eat half his contract, and flip him to Philly for Konecny and Frost.
That makes any potential Eichel return better.
jc17
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Ive seen konecny and gaudreau linked before. Is Johnny g really worth 4 years of konecny?
markpenske
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There's going to be some good punch-lines from that. I don't know too many Billy Joel songs but how about "New York state of mind"
MarkusKetterer
Shoulda got one game in
If he signs an extension with Philly, yes.
Although I can also see “why would we trade Konecny when we can just sign him for free?”
Article on ESPN re: Eichel
Really, nothing new other than a few quotes from players, and this little tidbit
I mean, I get it, GMs need vacations too. But the timing is probably the worst he could have had
Get your work done first, Kevyn
Really, nothing new other than a few quotes from players, and this little tidbit
I mean, I get it, GMs need vacations too. But the timing is probably the worst he could have had
Get your work done first, Kevyn
Jim Bob
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Jim Bob
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In the past, Kevyn has spent off seasons at a place on Chautauqua Lake. So, it is a quick trip.
I wonder if there is something else going on, like maybe a trip to visit family, a wedding, or something like that.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Christ Johnston joined the Steve Dangle podcast to talk about things.
He thinks the next pressure point is the start of camp.
Given he is, at a minimum, 2 months away from being able to play, the pressure point is now.
Teams who are trading for him want him on the ice ASAP. Given the Sabres choices previously, the time to make a trade was two weeks ago. Adams taking a siesta in the middle of all this is maddening.
Gabrielor
"Win with us or watch us win." - Rasmus Dahlin
I'm positive that if someone calls him that's a GM (not the media) about Eichel, he'll answer.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
The other thing could be that he is traveling to scout the various Jr camps and events that are currently taking place like the Hlinka Gretzky tournament.
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