News: Jack Eichel not happy in Buffalo [JACK EICHEL MEGATHREAD]

[is the answer jesus]

First I'd argue that many didn't think Karlsson was washed out when he was being shopped, either. If San Jose did, they certainly wouldn't have given up what they did in the trade and then signed him to the deal that they gave him.

Second, whether Eichel returns exactly to form or not, this doesn't make San Jose a contender. They get Eichel for 5 years at $10M. For four of those five years, they've got $26.5M tied up in three immovable contracts (Burns is still pretty good, but nobody's touching that deal due to his age) and another $5.75M in Jones, who's been abysmal, for three years.

Realistically, they don't have the cap structure to make it work. They'd be a fringe playoff team at best that doesn't get close to a Cup during Eichel's contract, which means that they'd face the very real possibility of selling off massive assets for Eichel, not come close to a Cup during the time he's there, and then watch him leave in UFA because of it.

Honestly the best option for San Jose is selling what they can and riding out those contracts while they stock the shelves. They weren't exactly in good shape before the Karlsson trade, but the trading for and signing of Karlsson has pretty badly screwed them.

Senators fans could see the writing on the wall with Karlsson. He wasn't fully toasted yet, but it was obvious he was slipping.
As for SJ I have no idea if Eichel makes them a contender or not, but a center spine of Eichel Hertl and Couture sure looks pretty formidable to me. I'd trade 1st's, decent prospects and good not great hockey players like Meier all day for a talent like Eichel. It's much easier to fill in around the margins than it is to get a franchise centerman. People have a tendency to overrate picks and propsects in these parts. If Eichel weren't on the Sabres I'd move anything short of Dahlin to get him here.

 

[TheNumber4]

Eichel coming off injury and contemplating surgery? Yeh, I’m sure Buffalo will get full value for him. Buffalo will lose this trade.

Typical of the entitled and arrogant Jack Eichel to force his way out though. Dude was supposed to BE the franchise and now he’s acting like he doesn’t have a role in this trash fire. Buffalo paid him like a superstar, drafted talent to surround him, and paid out the nose to get him wingers. You could argue they built a shit team for Jack but you can’t argue they didn’t try to get something going here for him. And still, he wants out.

Not absolving management at all in this... actually I would say management f***ed up with Eichel even before they drafted him. Remember how disappointed and pissed the Sabres GM looked when the lottery balls dropped and they found out that they weren’t getting McDavid and are only getting consolation prize Eichel. Not a good look from the get go.

Feel bad for Buffalo fans, it’s been a rough couple years and looks like it’s gonna get worse. But, really all it takes is one good year to turn it all around... who knows what mix of players you could bring in with all the high value assets that seemingly want out. You never know, it could be the exact right mix and it could all turn around in an instance.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Marchessault+Krebs/Glass+Morozov/Brisson/Dorofeyev+Hague+2 1sts.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Cody Glass, Alex Tuch, Reilly Smith for Cap purposes +

Swap W. Karlsson in for Smith and add a couple first round picks.

 

[CanadienShark]

I like how 4 of the top 5 threads in this section are Eichel.. and the other is Reinhart.

I feel bad for Buffalo. Vultures are circling. Vegas has the pieces, but not the cap.

 

[sasha barkov]

Only deal that gets Buffalo listening is

Karlsson + Krebs + 2021 & 2022 1st

even then I don't see it

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Vegas is super aggressive and it is out of conference. It's a sneaky potential trade partner for Buffalo.

Tuch would be a good get as an established player component in an Eichel trade. 5 years left on his contract is a lot and it's the good kind of term. You can envision him lining up next to Cozens on the next good Sabres' squad.

The question is if a Glass or Krebs is an adequate lead futures component in a deal. Not sexy, but if the league squeezes a bit, it could be competitive enough.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I like how 4 of the top 5 threads in this section are Eichel.. and the other is Reinhart.

I feel bad for Buffalo. Vultures are circling. Vegas has the pieces, but not the cap.

When has that ever stopped Vegas before?

 

[mk80]

Vegas is already up against the cap though, they are already playing with 15 skaters tonight due to cap restrictions. So they would have to clear a significant amount of salary to fit Eichel's contract.

Not saying they can't do it. But it would take the right salary going out to bring in Eichel.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Vegas is already up against the cap though, they are already playing with 15 skaters tonight due to cap restrictions. So they would have to clear a significant amount of salary to fit Eichel's contract.

Not saying they can't do it. But it would take the right salary going out to bring in Eichel.

If Vegas has proven it's that they don't care about the salary cap

 

[TheNumber4]

Some shitty offers thrown around by Flames fans for literally the player they’ve been needing and wanting for more than a decade. They offering less than OPs ask like Buffalo is forced to do a trade with the Flames only. Good luck.

 

[Seras]

So you guys have almost ruined a great player, and now you want what he was worth before you ruined him? Yeah, it doesn't work like that.

You either get what you can for him or let his value tank even more.

 

[The Lukeman]

Man some of these proposals are crazy lol.

I am trying to see how a trade like this would work.

Turcotte + 2021 1st round pick (7-9th overall) + Kupari or Clague for Eichel?

thats 2 blue chips + a B prospect for Eichel. That is lower than Buffalo’s initial ask of 4 1st round pieces.

If I’m LA, I wouldn’t offer more than that. If I’m Buffalo, I wouldn’t sell for that cheap. Simply but, idk if there is a middle ground where it works. But it’s Buffalo, so…

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Please stop, Johnsson doesn't even play for us anymore.

Kerfoot, Dermott and 3rd Rd pick should get it done.

The f*** are you talking about. Those arent comparable at all.

Kerfoot > Johnsson
Dermott>>Marincin
3rd Round Pick >>>2nd Round Pick.

AINEC

 

[Jagemon]

Seems kind of fishy that Buffalo wouldn't want him to have surgery, but Eichel does want to.

Depends on the surgery.

Sometimes its better to wait it out and see if the issue is fixed rather than rushing in with the surgery as not all surgeries are equal.

 

[Jagemon]

Yah, but again, GM may not want to "spend" that much on a guy with his injury history whitout seeing he's back to full form

Makes sense, but also if he is back to full form his value is then also higher.

Damn if you do, damn if you dont.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

For some reason I see him ending up in Vegas.

My guess is he's traded for Cody Glass, Peyton Krebs, Reilly Smith, 1st 2021, 1st 2022, and NJ 2nd 2021.

But what also be included is potential trades within other teams in order to help with other teams expansion drafts considering Vegas has leeway as to not be effected in the expansion draft by any means.

 

[Seras]

I hope what ever team he ends up on misses the playoffs for 10 years..

That'd teach him for being drafted by the Sabers!

 

[Iapyi]

They didn’t tank. They naturally regressed and needed to rebuild after years of playoff disappoints, but playoffs nonetheless. The only team to have purposefully tank for a player is Toronto.

You just keep right on believing that.

 

[Divine]

Tavares for Eichel, 1 for 1.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Cody Glass, Peyton Krebs, Reilly Smith, 1st 2021, 1st 2022 and NJ 2nd 2021.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

geeze Buffalo is going to struggle BAD convincing UFAs to sign there... its going to be next to impossible for them to convince guys to come FORSURE if Eichel is gone

what in tarnation is going on there.. wow

 

[jaric1862]

The Rangers are a Jack Eichel away from being a stanley cup contender. I think they should do whatever it takes to get him.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Switch Suzuki for KK, and send them Ykonen

You ain't getting Eichel with KK being the big trade piece coming back, dont be ridiculous

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Cody Glass, Peyton Krebs, Reilly Smith, 1st 2021, 1st 2022 and NJ 2nd 2021.

you are cruel... what did Cody, Peyton and Reilly do to deserve being traded to Buffalo lol jk