Jack Campbell - a legit starter or hot streak?

[Dicky113]

Hot starter on a legit streak

 

[TheGreatOne11]

In 56 games with the kings over three seasons he posted

.928
.924
.900

Last season with the leafs small sample size but he posted a .915

Now 10 game winning streak, healthier and given the reigns he has posted a .944

He is a legit starter, goalies are extremely hard go predict as we all know and take the longest to develop to their full potential most of the time.
He has always had the mentality of being a starter, i am a starter and now he has achieved that.

And when he loses which he will, or has a bad game, the stats back it up and his fight backs it up.

He is a starter and a damn good dude.

 

[Peiskos]

Campbell is a legit starting caliber goalie and I think this is more than just a hot streak.. he went 11th overall in 2012, he was the US's goalie for the 2010 world junior gold team, so I mean the guy has the talent it isn't like he came out of nowhere. He just never got his footing with Dallas or LA.

Doesn't hurt either that the Leafs are as deep and well coached as they've been in a long while. The level of confidence the team plays with in front of him is unlike anything I've seen with Andersen.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Campbell is a legit starting caliber goalie and I think this is more than just a hot streak.. he went 11th overall in 2012, he was the US's goalie for the 2010 world junior gold team, so I mean the guy has the talent it isn't like he came out of nowhere. He just never got his footing with Dallas or LA.

Doesn't hurt either that the Leafs are as deep and well coached as they've been in a long while. The play with a level of confidence in front of him unlike anything I've seen with Andersen.

He did quite well with LA, he wasn't going to get the starter's job with Quick there

 

[Zybalto]

He did quite well with LA, he wasn't going to get the starter's job with Quick there

2017-Trade to the Leafs:

Save%:
Quick: .907
Campbell: .917

GSAA/60:
Quick: -.16
Campbell: +.17

Maybe he should have gotten the opportunity to start a while ago?

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

2017-Trade to the Leafs:

Save%:
Quick: .907
Campbell: .917

GSAA/60:
Quick: -.16
Campbell: +.17

Maybe he should have gotten the opportunity to start a while ago?

With Quick making 7 million a year and LA being a non-competitive team there really was no point in starting Campbell

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

This guy is giving me serious Hamburglar vibes. Everything hits him, he’s making big saves and looking sound in there. I’ve seen so many pucks roll through his crease and somehow stay out.

But important to remember, Hammond ended up falling in the playoffs. If he’s the starter then, we’ll see if he cools off a bit

 

[Spirit of 67]

Kinda hoping it's both.

 

[c_mak]

Legit starter. Just took a little longer. This kid is Jordan Binnington a second coming. Watch out the Leafs are marching

 

[BlueBaron]

Impossible to be objective for me.

29 years old. High draft pedigree, solid career numbers, not a lot of games.

Is he Tim Thomas with a pedigree? God I hope so.

You never know with goalies.

 

[Territory]

This guy is giving me serious Hamburglar vibes. Everything hits him, he’s making big saves and looking sound in there. I’ve seen so many pucks roll through his crease and somehow stay out.

But important to remember, Hammond ended up falling in the playoffs. If he’s the starter then, we’ll see if he cools off a bit

Do you even watch the games? Or you just make up what happens in your head?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Impossible to be objective for me.

29 years old. High draft pedigree, solid career numbers, not a lot of games.

Is he Tim Thomas with a pedigree? God I hope so.

You never know with goalies.

I was expecting Campbell to "finally break out" about 3 years ago. Never really understood what the issue was, since I didn't follow his teams closely. On paper he has all the things you'd expect from a guy who's ready to make the leap, except you realize he's 29 freaking years old now and that makes it feel like there must be a dropoff around the corner.

 

[BlueBaron]

I was expecting Campbell to "finally break out" about 3 years ago. Never really understood what the issue was, since I didn't follow his teams closely. On paper he has all the things you'd expect from a guy who's ready to make the leap, except you realize he's 29 freaking years old now and that makes it feel like there must be a dropoff around the corner.

Tim Thomas was just getting started at this age

 

[Cotton]

Most likely a hot streak, especially considering he's playing behind a good team that exclusively beats up on maybe the worst division ever assembled in the NHL. Could be a late bloomer and following a Tim Thomas type career trajectory though maybe?

This is the North, not the West.

 

[4thline]

This is the North, not the West.

Or the old SouthLeast

 

[StreetHawk]

I was expecting Campbell to "finally break out" about 3 years ago. Never really understood what the issue was, since I didn't follow his teams closely. On paper he has all the things you'd expect from a guy who's ready to make the leap, except you realize he's 29 freaking years old now and that makes it feel like there must be a dropoff around the corner.

He's not a kid. Drafted in 2010, which was the Hall/Seguin draft.

Are the Leafs going to let him have the starter job next season and just bring in another veteran goalie like a Dubnyk to share the duties in more of a 1a/1b type scenario vs a guy who is expected to be a 20-25 game backup. Target more of a 50-32 game split and adjust as necessary.

Big cap savings in 21-22 if they did that. Guess the playoffs will dictate that.

 

[tarheelhockey]

He's not a kid. Drafted in 2010, which was the Hall/Seguin draft.

That's the weird part to me. He has been solidly starter-age for several years now, and on paper he has all the markers of a guy who's beyond seasoned for a larger role. Maybe he's just been caught in a numbers game repeatedly, which would make the Tim Thomas parallel a bit stronger, but it's just odd on paper.

 

[cyris]

Since his time in LA, I've felt that he is a legit starter. He may not be an All-Star-caliber top 10 goalie, but he is clearly a starter. To be honest, I have been surprised how little he has been utilized in Toronto since the trade as I've felt he's been their best option since.

It’s just been a weird set of circumstances since he was traded to the Leafs.
When he got here Andersen who had been great for the previous 3 seasons was ahead of him. Freddy wasn’t having a great year but it was hoped that he was just being overplayed. Campbell obviously wasn’t going to take the starters roll at that point.
Then a month after he got to Toronto the season was shut down.
In the bubble any team was going to go to their starter.

This season Andersen struggled again but Campbell got hurt his first game of the season. Then he reinjured himself in his first game back. There was really no other way we could have utilized him before this

 

[TheBeastCoast]

That's the weird part to me. He has been solidly starter-age for several years now, and on paper he has all the markers of a guy who's beyond seasoned for a larger role. Maybe he's just been caught in a numbers game repeatedly, which would make the Tim Thomas parallel a bit stronger, but it's just odd on paper.

I don't know if you have the Athletic but they just came out with a pretty in depth piece on Campbell and his struggles.
‘I’m not gonna lie about my life’: How Jack Campbell was saved on his way to the Maple Leafs

Essentially he had mental issues around dealing with failure built up around just how successful he was before his draft year and taking goals he let in to hard and it effecting the way he played the game. A lot of praise to Dusty Imoo in the article for helping him with the mental side of the game(life) once he got to the Kings. It is a really good read.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Leaf's always trading with the Cali teams. Got the worse goalie between Gibson and Andersen but the better one between Quick and Campbell... probably.

 

[cyris]

He's not a kid. Drafted in 2010, which was the Hall/Seguin draft.

Are the Leafs going to let him have the starter job next season and just bring in another veteran goalie like a Dubnyk to share the duties in more of a 1a/1b type scenario vs a guy who is expected to be a 20-25 game backup. Target more of a 50-32 game split and adjust as necessary.

Big cap savings in 21-22 if they did that. Guess the playoffs will dictate that.

We are all just guessing here but I would think Toronto looks to bring someone else in to split starts next season in a 1A/1B situation with Campbell being the early favourite to be the 1A guy. And whoever plays better from there is the starter late in the season and into the playoffs. A 55/45 to 60/40 split of starts.

I do think that was kinda the plan this year with Andersen as the 1A to start. But due to injuries neither guy has been healthy at the same time. With a period there where both weren’t healthy.

 

[TopChedder]

If I am the Leaf brass I consider riding with him. He looks good and has pedigree. The cap savings alone of not having Anderson is worth it going forward with a flat cap for the next year or two.

It's a very good situation (if Soupy is legit and healthy)

 

[DanyHeatley]

Not a flash in the pan unlike Hammond. This guys forreal

 

[StreetHawk]

If I am the Leaf brass I consider riding with him. He looks good and has pedigree. The cap savings alone of not having Anderson is worth it going forward with a flat cap for the next year or two.

It's a very good situation (if Soupy is legit and healthy)

Only way to know is to let him ride it this year. On the UFA trade market, I don't think there is a goalie that meets this criteria that would help the Leafs. No point in adding another goalie with term at the deadline.

But, this is the Leaf's best shot at winning a playoff round and possibly getting to the final 4.

 

[Dooble08]

Dude is a legit starter on a hot streak