Jack Campbell - a legit starter or hot streak?

[Bedards Dad]

Campbell is legit. Will be the starter for the Leafs in the playoffs.

Anderson days in Toronto are done. He won't be back next year.

As much as I like Freddie I think you're right. He will cost too much to bring back and Campbell is signed until the end of next year. We need to find an average to slightly above average goalie that comes in at or under Andersen's current salary.

What cannot happen is a Campbell/Hutchison 1/2. Campbell playing 60 games is a lot different than playing 25-30 games, and Hutch cannot carry a 20+ game workload.

A 50/30 split (Campbell/new goalie) seems ideal.

 

[Beezeral]

Falling back to earth a bit.

 

[Do or Die]

Jack Campbell - a legit starter or hot streak?

At this stage, would go with neither.....

 

[Morbo]

Think we're going to need a larger sample of games to answer this question. and more than one season.

It is no more fair to say "no" after a poor 4 game stretch than it was to say "yes" after the streak he had.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Jack Campbell - a legit starter or hot streak?

At this stage, would go with neither.....

Good one randy. Good one

 

[Muffin]

Think we're going to need a larger sample of games to answer this question. and more than one season.

It is no more fair to say "no" after a poor 4 game stretch than it was to say "yes" after the streak he had.

Except he's been a backup his whole career so it's not a 4 game streak. The hot streak was the outlier.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

The guys 29 years old and has been a backup his entire career. The odds of him becoming a good starter at this age are pretty remote imo. He had a hot streak which we’ve seen from lots of back ups over the years.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Except he's been a backup his whole career so it's not a 4 game streak. The hot streak was the outlier.

Yup. Although good goalies can bloom later in their careers. It's pretty voodoo. He has a chance to be a starter or out of the league like a Hammond.

 

[Morbo]

Except he's been a backup his whole career so it's not a 4 game streak. The hot streak was the outlier.

all I'm saying is that there haven't been enough games in one year. you have to see how a goalie performs with a starter's workload, not a backup's workload.

 

[DickSmehlik]

The guys 29 years old and has been a backup his entire career. The odds of him becoming a good starter at this age are pretty remote imo. He had a hot streak which we’ve seen from lots of back ups over the years.

I won't pretend that I have been following his career closely, but judging from his stats it looks like he has been outperforming Quick, or at the worst hanging in with him while he was with the Kings.

And he has a .917% in 78 games, not too shabby.

 

[nucks88]

Well I sure hopes he starts tomorrow night....

 

[AvroArrow]

Legit starter except for short side shots coming down the right wing he's been bad the last few games. Seems to play well overall but I don't think I've seen him make a save on someone coming down his right wing yet. 2 last night, 1 more against Winnipeg the game before, exact same shot from the exact same spot.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I won't pretend that I have been following his career closely, but judging from his stats it looks like he has been outperforming Quick, or at the worst hanging in with him while he was with the Kings.

And he has a .917% in 78 games, not too shabby.

Sure. As a backup. Backups generally play the weaker teams and those 78 games are spread out over 5 or so seasons. He’s never been a starter or even a 1B so we have no idea what his stats would be if he had to play 40-50 games. But we do have a lot of data that shows that career back ups rarely become starters at 29 years of age. The odds are extremely low. The obvious exception is Tim Thomas but he’s definitely not the norm.

 

[lottster14]

We have to go with Rittich going forward, who is a proven starter, over trying to keep the prince wonder boy thing going.

 

[T REX]

I think Louie Domingue held the record for straight wins for the Bolts set a couple years ago...that was with Vasy as the starter...back ups are backups. If Toronto thinks they got some star they are completely going to be disappointed. Not new though.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Career seems to be a lot like Al Montoya, who had some good half seasons himself.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

I said in the GDT the night the Habs ended his streak, his bubble was bursted and he would revert to normal.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Not a good time to be cooling down.

 

[The National]

Hot streak.

 

[kylbaz]

Now lose 11 in a row.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Except he's been a backup his whole career so it's not a 4 game streak. The hot streak was the outlier.

But his stats as a backup goalie amassed to a .917 sv% so the only outlier was how many games he played, not the quality of performance.

There's still not a large enough sample size to say if this is just a bad streak or he's incapable of handling a larger workload cuz his stats were always impressive, not just as a starter

 

[MR4]

Except he's been a backup his whole career so it's not a 4 game streak. The hot streak was the outlier.

his career save % is .917, that’s the definition of a starter quality goalie

 

[unicornpig]

I won't pretend that I have been following his career closely, but judging from his stats it looks like he has been outperforming Quick, or at the worst hanging in with him while he was with the Kings.

And he has a .917% in 78 games, not too shabby.

every kings backup goalie performed quick.....

 

[tucker3434]

his career save % is .917, that’s the definition of a starter quality goalie

A starter save percentage with a backup workload is a backup goalie until proven otherwise.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

his career save % is .917, that’s the definition of a starter quality goalie

Nope. The definition of a starter goalie is one who plays the majority of his teams games. Backups can have decent save percentages because they generally get easier matchups and don’t have a heavy workload.