Rationale:
Angels: LA saves about 5-6M and opens up the DH spot for Ohtani and rest. They get 2 backend starters in Roark and Stripling, the latter who they tried to acquire and a SS to potentially replace Simmons if he walks. Angels pretty much spread out Albert's 30M to 3 needs on the diamond and Grichuk.
Grichuk goes to the team that drafted him and LA could hope he catches lightning in a bottle and move him around from OF to DH to give some players the night off or trade him.
Blue Jays: Jays will likely release Pujols at an additional cost of 5-6M for 2021 but clear Grichuk's 10.33M for 2022 and 2023. They get their CFer of the future in Jahmai Jones. Jones has great speed, walk rate, on base and a CF defense. Jones is blocked by Trout, Adell, Upton and now Grichuk. Marsh and Adams are ahead of him on the prospect depth chart too.
Not ideal for the Jays to 5-6M like that this year but this move would improve their CF and they still would only have only 89M committed to the 2021 team with Pujols' 30M. But clearing 10M in 2022 and 2023 would help our window a lot. 89M this off-season would give us 40-70M to spend, depending how much ownership gave us. Still a lot of money to get 2-3 starters and a bat. Jays save even more money if they non-tender Shaw and Drury.
Jays could use the long term money save to push for Vladdy, Bichette and Hernandez extensions.
Other Option - Houston: Another trade option for Grichuk is Houston. All three of their OFs are hitting free agency in Springer, Brantley and Reddick. Grichuk is from Houston.
Doesn't seem like he had his best stuff. Or even his less-than-best stuff.
Or that Montoya extra day of rest messed him up?
We need a serious upgrade on Grichuk.
Was looking at Braves-Dodgers type move from 2017 to clear money for us this year and to help the Angels spread their money around.
To the Angels:
CF Randal Grichuk (10.33M for the next 3 years)
SP Tanner Roark (12M for 1 season)
SP Ross Stripling (Arb eligible - 2-3M)
SS Santiago Espinal
Total: 25M for 2020 and 40-50M in total
To the Jays:
1B/DH Albert Pujols (30M for 1 season)
CF Jahmai Jones
Total: 30M for 2020 and 30M+ in total
Trade Value:
Rationale:
Angels: LA saves about 5-6M and opens up the DH spot for Ohtani and rest. They get 2 backend starters in Roark and Stripling, the latter who they tried to acquire and a SS to potentially replace Simmons if he walks. Angels pretty much spread out Albert's 30M to 3 needs on the diamond and Grichuk.
Grichuk goes to the team that drafted him and LA could hope he catches lightning in a bottle and move him around from OF to DH to give some players the night off or trade him.
Blue Jays: Jays will likely release Pujols at an additional cost of 5-6M for 2021 but clear Grichuk's 10.33M for 2022 and 2023. They get their CFer of the future in Jahmai Jones. Jones has great speed, walk rate, on base and a CF defense. Jones is blocked by Trout, Adell, Upton and now Grichuk. Marsh and Adams are ahead of him on the prospect depth chart too.
Not ideal for the Jays to 5-6M like that this year but this move would improve their CF and they still would only have only 89M committed to the 2021 team with Pujols' 30M. But clearing 10M in 2022 and 2023 would help our window a lot. 89M this off-season would give us 40-70M to spend, depending how much ownership gave us. Still a lot of money to get 2-3 starters and a bat. Jays save even more money if they non-tender Shaw and Drury.
Jays could use the long term money save to push for Vladdy, Bichette and Hernandez extensions.
Other Option - Houston: Another trade option for Grichuk is Houston. All three of their OFs are hitting free agency in Springer, Brantley and Reddick. Grichuk is from Houston.
I can't believe no sports for a longtime.
Whens the next baseball ball event?
NFL:
Regular Season just started
NBA:
-Finals is currently on
-Draft and free agency opens in at the end of October, perhaps early November
-Season likely starts in January
NHL:
-Draft on Oct 6th (4 days)
-Free agency Oct 9th
-Season starts some time in January
MLB:
-Playoffs is still on
-I expect MLB free agency to open up sometime in November which will be a big off-season for the Jays
-Spring Training starts on February 27th - so 5 months
Looks like the Jays, Raptors and Leafs will be having some big off-seasons coming up which will be big. Raptors will be undergoing a change with Ibaka, Gasol and FVV as free agents perhaps gearing up for the 2021 free agency with Giannis, Kawhi and others available. Leafs are coming off a very disappointing season but a top 5 defensemen in Pietrangelo might be available along with other trades. And the Jays will be big buyers to help this young core contend. Huge next few months for Toronto Sports.
Agreed with all of this. Would love a 3B to fill in until Groshans can prove he’s ready or Martin depending if he plays the infield. And yes, Grichuk is the odd man out in the outfield. We need a better defensive CF but also a guy who can hit. I love your pitching suggestions. Shoemaker seems content on coming back, Ray was pretty good for the most part and a guy like Musgrove would provide good depth. But most importantly we need a big gun like Bauer. Manoah, Kloff and SWR aren’t ready for another couple years.I would take this and Shoemaker as a 6th starter and Aaron Sanchez on a minor league deal for the backed of the pen.
For some reason I think Walker will get too much money. More than I would be willing to pay with his injury history. Perhaps the Jays revisit their McGuire-Musgrove trade with the Bucs in the off-season.
Bauer
Ryu
Pearson
Musgrove
Ray
Shoemaker
Even guys like Quintana, Happ, Paxton, or Odorizzi would be solid.
Jays need a 3B. I would prefer to move Bichette to 3B and get a SS like Simmons or Semien. If not then go after a 3B; Dematheiu, Turner and Fletcher in that order.
Getting rid of Roark and/or Grichuk’s contract would be nice too. Getting a real CF would be nice.
Why waste time trade for CF when Austin Martin do trick
So this hasn't been discussed much, but we're below average to awful defensively at like every single position. Should we try to address this through fa through guys like Simmons/Jackie Bradley, or do we just double down on our strengths and hope that they young guys improve defensively?
So this hasn't been discussed much, but we're below average to awful defensively at like every single position. Should we try to address this through fa through guys like Simmons/Jackie Bradley, or do we just double down on our strengths and hope that they young guys improve defensively?
So this hasn't been discussed much, but we're below average to awful defensively at like every single position. Should we try to address this through fa through guys like Simmons/Jackie Bradley, or do we just double down on our strengths and hope that they young guys improve defensively?