Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk PART X

[boredmale]

Random question hope someone can help me out on.

People are always saying "Ho-Sang has XX points in his last xx games" and so on. How can you view a prospect or AHLer's game log? I'd love to know a place I can see that information without having to go from box score to box score.

http://theahl.com/stats/player/6455/54/josh-ho-sang

If you open up a boxscore and click on the link to the player you can see a breakdown of all the games he played

 

[kmo429]

http://theahl.com/stats/player/6455/54/josh-ho-sang

If you open up a boxscore and click on the link to the player you can see a breakdown of all the games he played

Awesome, thanks!

So Ho-Sang is 7-13-20 in his last 16 after 3-13-16 in his first 28
and MDC is 3-8-11 in his last 10 after 8-11-19 in his first 44

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Barzal is actually second in the WHL in PPG with 1.95. Only Sam Steele is better with 2.05.

Ahhhh, Sam Steel in an Islander uniform...

Welp, maybe someday.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Which is why many fans drool over Ho-Sang / Barzal. They can do exactly what we lost with Frans/PA.

And here's hoping they end up doing a whole heck of a lot more!

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

They got a "Steel" in him. Sorry, too hard to pass up.

Seriously though, I'm stunned he went so late in the 1st. He's a premier talent.

I don't get to see many Canadian juniors other than at international tournaments played around Europe.

So when I saw Steel at the Ivan Hlinka, I was flabbergasted. I couldn't help but hope this organization would somehow grab him, maybe if we'd have a pick around 15-25.

The tools he's got... they were just so evident. For a week in Eastern Europe, he looked like one of those kids where you really don't worry too much about the actual production at any stage of junior, cause the tool set just screamed 'Looks like a future NHL impact player'.

I'm sure he ended up dropping in the draft rankings for good reason. Time will only tell if he makes it as many other factors ultimately play a role.

But there are things he's just got and WHL fans are getting a good taste of what they are.

Definitely one to watch moving forward!

 

[xECK29x]

Nice article on Soderstrom: http://thehockeywriters.com/hot-on-the-islanders-radar-linus-soderstrom

This was neat:

Fun Fact: Soderstrom has some remarkable skills in the video game NHL 17. As a gamer, that is. At the peak of his virtual career, the Islanders prospect has in fact been ranked as high as number two in the world! In total, there are about 500,000 people competing online in EA Sports NHL 17. How about that?!

 

[boredmale]

Barzal with a goal(yes a goal) and assist in 2 periods so far. Would be nice if he can get 2 more points to become a 2 PPG player

 

[IIlya4Life]

Can we get Ilya Sorokin over this summer or next summer? BTW he is does not have playoff loss yet in KHL, round 2 for CSKA Moscow starts next Wednesday I believe

I was wondering the same thing, is there anyway we can offer his Russian team a buyout of next year and have him and greiss as our goalies? Would be a heck of a 1-2 punch.

Dump Burebe

Try to trade halak again in offseason, offer to pay half his contract.

 

[LordNeverLose]

BTW Petrov led CSKA with 38 points and 20 goals

 

[periferal]

BTW Petrov led CSKA with 38 points and 20 goals

1. Do we still own his rights?
2. Does it even matter?

 

[PK Cronin]

1. Do we still own his rights?
2. Does it even matter?

Pretty sure he's still Isles property and would become an RFA this year. Don't think it matters much though. Staple tweeted back when he went to the KHL again that he didn't believe Petrov would come back. I might be mis-remembering, but I think it was because he didn't want to play in the AHL.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kirill-petrov

 

[YearlyLottery]

1. Do we still own his rights?
2. Does it even matter?

He should have been in the NHL when we signed him originally. You don't wait that long for Petrov to come over to treat him like a normal prospect. If he wasn't good enough then send him down, but he should've been up.

 

[Frankie41987]

He should have been in the NHL when we signed him originally. You don't wait that long for Petrov to come over to treat him like a normal prospect. If he wasn't good enough then send him down, but he should've been up.

Why? He came to training camp and didn't make the team. Plus, who should have been scratched for him? In the beginning of the season last year we had:
Bailey-Tavares-Okposo
Lee-Nelson-Strome
Kulemon-Nielsen-Grabovski
Martin-Cizikas-Clutter

He could have been our 13th forward and been scratched until injury or get playing time in the AHL. He waited all of 13 games (only had 5 points) before he bolted. He clearly had no real commitment towards having a career here.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Why? He came to training camp and didn't make the team. Plus, who should have been scratched for him? In the beginning of the season last year we had:
Bailey-Tavares-Okposo
Lee-Nelson-Strome
Kulemon-Nielsen-Grabovski
Martin-Cizikas-Clutter

He could have been our 13th forward and been scratched until injury or get playing time in the AHL. He waited all of 13 games (only had 5 points) before he bolted. He clearly had no real commitment towards having a career here.

From what I recall he looked pretty decent in the preseason. There would've been no harm in having him start as the 13th forward due to Grabo's injuries and the more competition the better.

People go down with injuries and when you wait so long for Petrov to come over, you gotta give him a shot.

 

[Frankie41987]

From what I recall he looked pretty decent in the preseason. There would've been no harm in having him start as the 13th forward due to Grabo's injuries and the more competition the better.

People go down with injuries and when you wait so long for Petrov to come over, you gotta give him a shot.

Okposo went down with an injury and Petrov happened to be injured at that time so they called up someone else and he missed his chance. I understand the feeling that the situation was mishandled I just disagree. Everyone wants to talk about earning icetime and then thinks this guy should make the team so as not to "**** him off." I don't even think he really wanted to be here in the first place, there were rumors at that time that he used this little trip as a negotiating tactic with his KHL team. Its all in the past I guess, I just don't think he ever had done anything in his career to warrant the respect he thought he deserved. We weren't bringing over a Radulov/Panarin, we were bringing a 24 year old that had 15 points in 47 games the previous year.

 

[PK Cronin]

Okposo went down with an injury and Petrov happened to be injured at that time so they called up someone else and he missed his chance. I understand the feeling that the situation was mishandled I just disagree. Everyone wants to talk about earning icetime and then thinks this guy should make the team so as not to "**** him off." I don't even think he really wanted to be here in the first place, there were rumors at that time that he used this little trip as a negotiating tactic with his KHL team. Its all in the past I guess, I just don't think he ever had done anything in his career to warrant the respect he thought he deserved. We weren't bringing over a Radulov/Panarin, we were bringing a 24 year old that had 15 points in 47 games the previous year.

People only talk about earning ice time when it's advantageous to their position on a player. If they like them, they've earned the ice time so it should be given over an NHL regular (i.e. Pulock over Hickey). If they dislike the player, they didn't earn the ice time and that's the problem (i.e. Strait vs everyone). If the player they like didn't "earn" the ice time, then they talk about how they are so good they shouldn't have to. Most are very inconsistent on the topic and only use subjective criteria for answering whether or not someone has earned their time.

 

[Frankie41987]

People only talk about earning ice time when it's advantageous to their position on a player. If they like them, they've earned the ice time so it should be given over an NHL regular (i.e. Pulock over Hickey). If they dislike the player, they didn't earn the ice time and that's the problem (i.e. Strait vs everyone). If the player they like didn't "earn" the ice time, then they talk about how they are so good they shouldn't have to. Most are very inconsistent on the topic and only use subjective criteria for answering whether or not someone has earned their time.

"I'm open-minded to any idea I already believe in"

 

[YearlyLottery]

People only talk about earning ice time when it's advantageous to their position on a player. If they like them, they've earned the ice time so it should be given over an NHL regular (i.e. Pulock over Hickey). If they dislike the player, they didn't earn the ice time and that's the problem (i.e. Strait vs everyone). If the player they like didn't "earn" the ice time, then they talk about how they are so good they shouldn't have to. Most are very inconsistent on the topic and only use subjective criteria for answering whether or not someone has earned their time.

I just think when you invested in a pick back in 2008 and all of a sudden there is a shot of him playing in the NHL, he doesn't need to "earn" the ice time like a Thomas Hickey or Brian Strait should.

 

[PK Cronin]

I just think when you invested in a pick back in 2008 and all of a sudden there is a shot of him playing in the NHL, he doesn't need to "earn" the ice time like a Thomas Hickey or Brian Strait should.

I'm not talking about anyone in particular, rather the use of the term ice time. I've seen so many people flip flop depending upon the player in question. It's all subjective.

 

[SDIsles34]

Could Sorokin be loaned to the Isles from CSKA once their season ends? (already 5 games into the playoffs). I'm assuming there is zero motivation from CSKA to do that though.

 

[Poulin 0n My St1ck]

I see Robbie Russo got called up for the Red Wings. I've only seen him play one or two times, but I recall him developing quite well at Notre Dame. Interested in seeing how he pans out.

 

[PROMputt]

I see Robbie Russo got called up for the Red Wings. I've only seen him play one or two times, but I recall him developing quite well at Notre Dame. Interested in seeing how he pans out.

Always liked Russo never understood why he did not get a contract? On another note anyone see or know how Pokka has looked. I really thought he would have made it to the NHL by now.

 

[Renbarg]

Always liked Russo never understood why he did not get a contract? On another note anyone see or know how Pokka has looked. I really thought he would have made it to the NHL by now.

He missed some time due to being academically ineligible. Probably left a sour taste on someone who is a middling prospect at best.

 

[Poulin 0n My St1ck]

Always liked Russo never understood why he did not get a contract? On another note anyone see or know how Pokka has looked. I really thought he would have made it to the NHL by now.

I think it really just came down to a numbers game, and management decided he was too far down the depth chart to make the cut.

 

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Otto Koivula