Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part II

[The Real JT]

The Bolduc signing theoretically means that we've got 50 players under contract right now.

For what it's worth...

If that includes JHS, it'll be down to 49 soon.

 

[danteipp]

Very happy Bolduc has been signed.

He seems like one of those prospects/players who doesn't get much hype, but he gets a little better each year and, before you know it, he has become a player who eats minutes for you on defense for 6-10 years.

Ideally as the responsible player, of a defense pairing, alongside a player who is then allowed to take more chances. But Bolduc can contribute as well.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

The Bolduc signing theoretically means that we've got 50 players under contract right now.

For what it's worth...

Just checked capfriendly, still 49. His contract starts next season.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

If that includes JHS, it'll be down to 49 soon.

It does. And there are a good 10 or so contracts going off the books this summer, depending on which UFAs and RFAs the organization decides to cut ties with.

But if we're at 50 now, I don't know if and when we're allowed to hand out any other contracts?

And I know that Sorokin, Jenkins, Coskey, Bibeau, even Pastujov would need to be signed this summer.

But maybe it's nothing to worry about? Maybe these things are kind of on hold until everyone even knows if the season will continue or be called off?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Very happy Bolduc has been signed.

He seems like one of those prospects/players who doesn't get much hype, but he gets a little better each year and, before you know it, he has become a player who eats minutes for you on defense for 6-10 years.

Ideally as the responsible player, of a defense pairing, alongside a player who is then allowed to take more chances. But Bolduc can contribute as well.

Wouldn't be surprised if they're planning on already having him go pro next season.

Since Lamoriello took over, it seems like anybody they give an ELC to is brought right into the pro fold (Wahlstrom, Holmstrom, Skarek, Wilde, etc.)

 

[PWJunior]

Wouldn't be surprised if they're planning on already having him go pro next season.

Since Lamoriello took over, it seems like anybody they give an ELC to is brought right into the pro fold (Wahlstrom, Holmstrom, Skarek, Wilde, etc.)

It seems pretty obvious that Lou and Trotz prefer having all of the prized prospects under their direct control in the AHL or NHL. They clearly want to develop them themselves and make sure they aren't developing bad habits that will need to be broken later.

 

[xECK29x]

Hoping to get Sorokin signed tomorrow

 

[Bill Herlyn]

Islanders at 49 contracts signed with 1 more possible (Sorokin) until FA starts. Bolde Wilde has a slide contract that does not count towards the 50 contract limit for this year according to Capfriendly. I guess that the Islanders might not sign Blade Jenkins before June 1st and he will re enter the draft.

 

[danteipp]

Wouldn't be surprised if they're planning on already having him go pro next season.

Since Lamoriello took over, it seems like anybody they give an ELC to is brought right into the pro fold (Wahlstrom, Holmstrom, Skarek, Wilde, etc.)

I was thinking the same thing. At least bring him in, to take an extended look at him, then decide if he is ready for the AHL.

 

[SI]

Islanders at 49 contracts signed with 1 more possible (Sorokin) until FA starts. Bolde Wilde has a slide contract that does not count towards the 50 contract limit for this year according to Capfriendly. I guess that the Islanders might not sign Blade Jenkins before June 1st and he will re enter the draft.

these contracts - Bolduc and hopefully Sorokin, Jenkins, Coskey, & Bibeau are 20/21 contracts so they don’t count to the 49 contracts they for 2019/20.

 

[eoin92]

Bolduc signed to ELC. Most likely has another year in junior after this or He could go to the AHL because I believe he would be eligible.

What about Adong Song?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

What about Adong Song?

Still in college.

He's gonna have a BIG season next year. I'm sure of it.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

It seems pretty obvious that Lou and Trotz prefer having all of the prized prospects under their direct control in the AHL or NHL. They clearly want to develop them themselves and make sure they aren't developing bad habits that will need to be broken later.

Yep, it does seem pretty obvious. Dunno if I'd throw Trotz' name in there, because these kinds of things are management's decisions.

Whether it's the right thing to do or not won't be answered for a few more years yet.

I do know that they had roughly 45 guys kicking things off at BPort's camp last fall and the team looked like it should have been real solid.

We know what then happened.

 

[xECK29x]

Still in college.

He's gonna have a BIG season next year. I'm sure of it.

Maybe he’ll even get into a game!

 

[DarkHorse2]

It does. And there are a good 10 or so contracts going off the books this summer, depending on which UFAs and RFAs the organization decides to cut ties with.

Possibly gone:
Martin
Brassard
Kuhnhackl
Greene
Greiss
St. Denis
Schmaltz
Helgeson
Coreau
Gibson

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Possibly gone:
Martin
Brassard
Kuhnhackl
Greene
Greiss
St. Denis
Schmaltz
Helgeson
Coreau
Gibson

Those are the upcoming UFAs.

I don't see the team re-upping RFAs Ho-Sang, Burroughs, and Soderstrom.

Then we have to see what they decide for RFAs Aho, Wotherspoon, and Vande Sompel. I'd be shocked if all three are retained.

I think the only RFA in the organization outside of the NHL who is a lock to be re-upped is Hutton.

And something tells me they'll hang on to Schmaltz, but who knows.

 

[MJF]

It seems pretty obvious that Lou and Trotz prefer having all of the prized prospects under their direct control in the AHL or NHL. They clearly want to develop them themselves and make sure they aren't developing bad habits that will need to be broken later.

That was a Lou hallmark when he was with the Devils. Their AHL team in Albany mirrored what the Devils were doing on the NHL level. Style of play, game plans, etc. This way when he called up a player to NJ it would be as seamless a transition as possible.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

That was a Lou hallmark when he was with the Devils. Their AHL team in Albany mirrored what the Devils were doing on the NHL level. Style of play, game plans, etc. This way when he called up a player to NJ it would be as seamless a transition as possible.

Well that's one thing.

But what about throwing kids into the AHL before they might be ready?

PS) I used to go to River Rat games back in the day. Remember very well guys like Elias, Sykora, Pederson, Brylin, Sullivan, Rolston, Dowd, Oliwa, Yelle, Sutton, Persson, Hulse, Modry, Pellerin, etc. coming up. Back in those days, it seemed like they had 5+ 60-85 point scorers every single season.

When was the last time Bridgeport had a 60-point scorer, much less several?

 

[IslesCLT]

Well that's one thing.

But what about adding guys and throwing them into the AHL before they might be ready?

PS) I used to go to River Rat games back in the day. Remember very well guys like Elias, Sykora, Pederson, Brylin, Sullivan, Rolston, Dowd, Oliwa, Sutton, Persson, Hulse, Modry, Pellerin, etc. coming up. Back in those days, it seemed like they had 5+ 60-85 point scorers every single season.

I fondly remember watching the River Rats games on TV with my dad (on MSG maybe?) when I was younger. Rooted for them despite being the Devils affiliate

 

[The Real JT]

Possibly gone:
Martin
Brassard
Kuhnhackl
Greene
Greiss
St. Denis
Schmaltz
Helgeson
Coreau
Gibson

You left Sparky off the list.

It was a contract year for him and frankly he was a bit disappointing.

 

[crashthenet]

That was a Lou hallmark when he was with the Devils. Their AHL team in Albany mirrored what the Devils were doing on the NHL level. Style of play, game plans, etc. This way when he called up a player to NJ it would be as seamless a transition as possible.

Wonder of Thompson returns?

 

[DarkHorse2]

Wonder of Thompson returns?

Hope not. Time for a fresh start with a whole new staff. I'd try to see if Rocky Thompson is interested, since it looks like he may be out of a job in Chicago. He's done well there.

 

[MJF]

Well that's one thing.

But what about throwing kids into the AHL before they might be ready?

PS) I used to go to River Rat games back in the day. Remember very well guys like Elias, Sykora, Pederson, Brylin, Sullivan, Rolston, Dowd, Oliwa, Yelle, Sutton, Persson, Hulse, Modry, Pellerin, etc. coming up. Back in those days, it seemed like they had 5+ 60-85 point scorers every single season.

When was the last time Bridgeport had a 60-point scorer, much less several?

The AHL isn’t a high scoring league anymore. Besides, as far as BST goes I break it down to the Wang era and the Malkin/Ledecky era. In the Wang era the Sound Tigers operated on a shoe string budget so getting a scorer wasn’t going to happen. The Islanders scouting staff was 3 people, Central Scouting, and They Hockey News annual draft guide.

 

[MJF]

Wonder of Thompson returns?

I doubt he does. His time probably is up.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

The AHL isn’t a high scoring league anymore. Besides, as far as BST goes I break it down to the Wang era and the Malkin/Ledecky era. In the Wang era the Sound Tigers operated on a shoe string budget so getting a scorer wasn’t going to happen. The Islanders scouting staff was 3 people, Central Scouting, and They Hockey News annual draft guide.

Naturally, very different eras. The AHL hasn't even had many 70-point guys in recent years.

I had bumped into a number of Isles scouts back between 2011-2016 and they were more than 3.

But not by much.

I would find it very interesting to find out how that department in particular functions differently than during the Snow/Wang days?!

There's been 13 picks and three college UFAs added in Lamoriello's almost 2 seasons at the helm.

Precious few trades made overall, at any level. So the three deals made around this trade deadline were basically mindblowing in comparison to the previous 1.5 years of Lamoriello's time here.

But there's really no telling how that department has been utilized during this time.

I guess Chris getting to add guys like Brubacher can be seen as a product of our scouting department.

What can we expect now with another 5-pick draft that doesn't start until the 3rd round?