Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part II

[buud]

we have to consider that Sorokin is going to want a pretty penny to come over. what is he making there? 2 mil per? any guesses as to what he will be getting from us?

4 mil and bonus laden?

 

[SI]

we have to consider that Sorokin is going to want a pretty penny to come over. what is he making there? 2 mil per? any guesses as to what he will be getting from us?

4 mil and bonus laden?

Most likely he will sign an ELC after the season - .925K.

There is talk if he signs during the NHL season that this would burn his final year of his ELC thus making him an RFA, which may cost more than that...

 

[steveat]

I've only seen about 50 mins worth of highlights. You seem to know these prospects well. Would you say that Sorokin's style mirrors Vasi?

This will help you:

Sorokin vs Shestyorkin: A Style Comparison - InGoal Magazine

Not sure if he is similar to Vasi...I think hasek

 

[BelovedIsles]

This will help you:

Sorokin vs Shestyorkin: A Style Comparison - InGoal Magazine

Not sure if he is similar to Vasi...I think hasek

That's a bit 'scrambley?' I think I've read that, but thanks.

 

[duster19]

Most likely he will sign an ELC after the season - .925K.

There is talk if he signs during the NHL season that this would burn his final year of his ELC thus making him an RFA, which may cost more than that...

I can’t see Lou giving in to that. They are going to need that ELC next year for cap purposes.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

I can’t see Lou giving in to that. They are going to need that ELC next year for cap purposes.

Unless Lou thinks somehow he makes difference this year but it’s very much doubtful.

 

[JKP]

I can’t see Lou giving in to that. They are going to need that ELC next year for cap purposes.

Rumor for a long time was $$ was why he didn’t come. The price may be burn the ELC this year and pay the man next year.

Personally, this guy is Sasquatch to me - a nice rumor and until I see him signed, I don’t believe he’s ever coming over.

 

[Finster8]

Since Jenkins has been getting healthy and back to his regular routine. He has GP-7 G-5 A-6 Pt-11 and is giving his team a lethal 2nd line. Giroux Suzuki Coskey + Perfetti Jenkins Busdeker and the addition of Wilde makes the whole team better.

 

[SI]

I can’t see Lou giving in to that. They are going to need that ELC next year for cap purposes.

I agree, but there may be a compromise. They sign him burn the final year of the ELC and sign him to a 1 year (one way) deal at ELC $ .925 k guaranteeing the actual dollars even if he is sent BPT.

I think Sorokin also wants to be sure he makes the team and doesn’t go to BPT and make 70k

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I agree, but there may be a compromise. They sign him burn the final year of the ELC and sign him to a 1 year (one way) deal at ELC $ .925 k guaranteeing the actual dollars even if he is sent BPT.

I think Sorokin also wants to be sure he makes the team and doesn’t go to BPT and make 70k

There's no Bridgeport.

And he's been earning upwards of 2 MM for several seasons now.

He won't be coming over at 24 and perhaps the top goalie outside the NHL to be anything less than an NHL goaltender.

But Lou knows this.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

4 mil and bonus laden?

As far as I know, you can't do any of that.

 

[SI]

There's no Bridgeport.

And he's been earning upwards of 2 MM for several seasons now.

He won't be coming over at 24 and perhaps the top goalie outside the NHL to be anything less than an NHL goaltender.

But Lou knows this.

I get that, but from a contractual stand point Sorokin on an ELC has no protection in case he is sent down. He’ll make AHL min 70k.

Just to be clear If Sorokin is brought over I do NOT imagine he plays a single minute at BPT.

 

[SI]

There's no Bridgeport.

And he's been earning upwards of 2 MM for several seasons now.

He won't be coming over at 24 and perhaps the top goalie outside the NHL to be anything less than an NHL goaltender.

But Lou knows this.

Chapin,
I know this is off topic, but
have you seen Pius Suter play?
Who are some euro free agents that you would target this offseason?
And what are your thoughts Grigorenko?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Chapin,
I know this is off topic, but
have you seen Pius Suter play?
Who are some euro free agents that you would target this offseason?
And what are your thoughts Grigorenko?

I don't care for Suter's skating and I think it'd be quite cumbersome for him at the NHL level.

He has experience in North America and he's definitely getting better and better every season. His 30 goals this year are basically unheard of from a Swiss player in the NLA. It's been a unique season. If he has a strong World Championships, I believe some team will chance it on him.

As for Grigorenko, the man can play in the NHL and would surely get something done. He may even have the impact like the one Dadonov has had on Florida. He has matured since his first go of things in the NHL and he knows what it means to be a driver on a championship team. Then again, it is really hard to tell with him if the desire is there. Just don't know how much he would want to change his current situation?

I do think Dmitri Jaskin will be heavily sought after. It was already clear that he could play a nice lower line role in the NHL and then he went to Russia to tell the rest of the hockey world that he can score too, if given that role. And he has. I see a few teams needing that!

As for other Euro free agents, I think teams will look at Zub, Okulov, Barabanov, Hofmann, Rendulic, Kinnvall, Brome, Handemark, Bristedt, Suomi, Nattinen, and maybe Skalicky. Surely there are others that teams have on their radar. Defenseman Codie Curran (Canadian) has had a pretty monstrous season in the SHL. I'd love to see a team take a shot on Simon Semesky, a German defender who is awesome on the power play (righty shot, sweet one-timer).

Also watch out for a Swede named Jonathan Johnson from the Allsvenskan. He is 27, but has exploded with 73 points in 50 games. Usually, the topscorer of this league has around a PPG average. His teammate Albin Lundin is 23 and has had 67 points, so he may garnish some interest. Of course, both take a back seat Jonathan Dahlen, who has torn the league a new one. All of Sweden knows that kid would have been a 30+ point player in the SHL, but he wanted to play with the hometown team a league lower.

As for college kids, I've always liked Michaelis and Tuomie back when they were part of Germany's U18 program. I think they'll both be getting a look from teams.

We shouldn't forget though that the NYI currently only have 1 or 2 contract spots open. That'll make things tight for any late season signings. The team was aggressive with Hutton, Jobst, and Carpenter last spring. Dunno if they can do that this spring too? And I think no less than Carpenter is going to be a UFA this summer.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

Sorokin's gonna want a lot of money if he signs his ELC to burn it off this year. He's the best goalie in the world, and he has all the power right now.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt
+ Mitchell Vande Sompel (out for year)

NHL - New York Islanders

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	31	1	4	5	6	-3
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	9	0	0	0	4	-2
* Otto Koivula	C/LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	6	11	0	0	0	2	0
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	7	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	5	8	2	1	3	2	3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

AHL - Bridgeport Sound Tigers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
* Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	5	48	18	8	26	33	-18
Simon Holmstrom	RW	2019 round 1 #23	8	43	8	4	12	6	-13
Otto Koivula	C/LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	6	36	9	13	22	29	-10
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	4	20	0	2	2	10	-5
Parker Wotherspoon	D	2015 round 4 #112	HM	58	4	20	24	80	-11
Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	GRAD	16	3	7	10	0	-4
			* San Antonio Rampage	2	1	1	2	2	1
Robert Carpenter	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	25	2	8	10	15	1
* Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	7	45	2	25	27	16	-16
* Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	41	8	10	18	25	-18
		USA U20	WJC-20	5	1	4	5	31	2
Grant Hutton	D	UFA Signing	HM	51	6	10	16	31	-10
Mason Jobst	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	40	5	8	13	21	-1
Arnaud Durandeau	LW/C	2017 round 6 #165	HM	19	5	3	8	10	1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

ECHL - Worcester Railers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
+? * Arnaud Durandeau	LW/C	2017 round 6 #165	HM	15	5	3	8	4	-7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

CHL - Canadian Major Juniors

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	10	Blainville-Boisbriand	32	7	9	16	14	7
				* Sherbrooke Phoenix	27	4	22	26	12	4
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	14	Saginaw Spirit	44	14	22	36	18	10
Cole Coskey	RW	2019 round 7 #209	NR	Saginaw Spirit	59	31	44	75	41	31
* Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	4	Saginaw Spirit	8	2	5	7	10	2
Felix Bibeau	C	2019 round 6 #178	NR	Quebec Remparts	31	17	18	35	39	-2
				* Chicoutimi Saguenéens	28	11	20	31	31	14
+? Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	NR	Portland Winterhawks	55	29	36	65	38	11

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

NCAA

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	9	Univ. of Connecticut	31	9	12	21	24	10
Nick Pastujov	LW	2016 round 7 #193	NR	Univ. of Michigan	34	8	8	16	20	4
Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170	NR	Univ. of North Dakota	33	12	16	28	16	27
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201	NR	Boston Univ.	16	2	3	5	6	-5
Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77	NR	Providence College	25	0	3	3	14	5
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196	NR	Michigan State Univ.	33	0	3	3	48	2
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103	NR	Univ. of Notre Dame	32	4	7	11	14	8
			USA U20	WJC-20	5	0	1	1	4	1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Europe

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	20	SaiPa (Liiga)	46	8	13	21	14	-20
				* Orebo HK (SHL)	7	0	1	1	0	-1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Goalies

PLAYER	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	GAA	SV%	SO
Ilya Sorokin	2014 round 3 #78	2	CSKA Moskva (KHL)	40	1.50	.935	9
Linus Söderström	2014 round 4 #95	11	* Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)	0	0	0	0
			Worcester Railers (ECHL)	4	4.49	.870	0
Jakub Skarek	2018 round 3 #72	12	* Worcester Railers (ECHL)	14	3.73	.879	0
			Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)	15	3.21	.889	1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[SI]

I don't care for Suter's skating and I think it'd be quite cumbersome for him at the NHL level.

He has experience in North America and he's definitely getting better and better every season. His 30 goals this year are basically unheard of from a Swiss player in the NLA. It's been a unique season. If he has a strong World Championships, I believe some team will chance it on him.

As for Grigorenko, the man can play in the NHL and would surely get something done. He may even have the impact like the one Dadonov has had on Florida. He has matured since his first go of things in the NHL and he know what it means to be a driver on a championship team. Then again, it is really hard to tell with him if the desire is there. Just don't know how much he would want to change his current situation.

I do think Dmitri Jaskin will be heavily sought after. It was already clear that he could play a nice lower line role in the NHL and then he went to Russia to tell the rest of the hockey world that he can score too, if given that role. And he has. I see a few teams needing that!

As for other Euro free agents, I think teams will look at Zub, Okulov, Barabanov, Hofmann, Rendulic, Kinnvall, Brome, Handemark, Bristedt, Suomi, Nattinen, and maybe Skalicky. Surely there are others that teams have on their radar. Defenseman Codie Curran (Canadian) has had a pretty monstrous season in the SHL. I'd love to see a team take a shot on Simon Semesky, a German defender who is awesome on the power play.

Also watch out for a Swede named Jonathan Johnson from the Allsvenskan. He is 27, but has exploded with 73 points in 50 games. Usually, the topscorer of this league has around a PPG average. His teammate Albin Lundin is 23 and has had 67 points, so he may garnish some interest.

As for college kids, I've always liked Michaelis and Tuomie back when they were part of Germany's U18 program. I think they'll both be getting a look from teams.

We shouldn't forget though that the NYI currently only have 1 or 2 contract spots open. That'll make things tight for any late season signings. The team was aggressive with Hutton, Jobst, and Carpenter last spring. Dunno if they can do that this spring too?

thank you for the analysis and report. always much appreciated.

Grabbing a guy Michaelis helps soften the blow of losing picks - just the type of out of the box thinking the team needs to do.

 

[Finnislander]

Sorokin's gonna want a lot of money if he signs his ELC to burn it off this year. He's the best goalie in the world, and he has all the power right now.

Well thats one of the hottest hot taeks I have ever seen. But I love it!!

 

[SCMURRAY]

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Well thats one of the hottest hot taeks I have ever seen. But I love it!!

Right now he's the best goalie in Russia. Until we see what he does in NA this is a baseless claim. KHL is second fiddle, lesser talents.

Let's see what he does here before making any ridiculous statements.

 

[doublechili]

Pffft, I used to make saves like that all the time in the basement, and I was using a second baseman's glove.

 

[crasherino]

Since Jenkins has been getting healthy and back to his regular routine. He has GP-7 G-5 A-6 Pt-11 and is giving his team a lethal 2nd line. Giroux Suzuki Coskey + Perfetti Jenkins Busdeker and the addition of Wilde makes the whole team better.

How has Wilde been since he's been back? Tough break for him getting hurt in training camp. Hopefully he gets his mojo back and comes back next year real strong.

 

[mm11]

Pffft, I used to make saves like that all the time in the basement, and I was using a second baseman's glove.

Don't want to play fat guy sitting here in Florida but does Sorokin look back in the net? Need your basement 2nd baseman glove thoughts on this?

 

[doublechili]

Don't want to play fat guy sitting here in Florida but does Sorokin look back in the net? Need your basement 2nd baseman glove thoughts on this?

Hard for me to say. I never moved front to back, only side to side (a little bit).

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I do think Dmitri Jaskin will be heavily sought after. It was already clear that he could play a nice lower line role in the NHL and then he went to Russia to tell the rest of the hockey world that he can score too, if given that role. And he has. I see a few teams needing that!

This guy always impressed me when I saw him play. I never understood why he couldn't put it together at the NHL level to be a decent middle sixer. Always kind of looked what a guy like Richard Panik is. Physical, good at the cycle game, with enough skills to top out at around 20 goals and 35+ points. Yet it never seemed to materialize for Jaskin.