Tough to really say they made no substantive growth when you probably have not seen them play. Who knows what there situation is with there team. Do they play ultra defensive systems which negates there numbers produced? That seemed to be the excuse for Wally why his numbers were so bad in college. Also Wally didn’t get much pp time from what I’ve read. Ish plays on the second unit pp for UConn as they favor juniors and seniors mostly in college hockey.
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The Real JT
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Like nearly everyone else on these boards, I haven't seen any prospects aside from the rare Bridgeport game I go to. Of course that won't stop me from having an opinion.
Two more points before I'm done:
1. Let's not forget that only 44% of second round picks play in the NHL and only 25% play at least 2 seasons
2. More to the point; Do you think any current GM would give up a 2nd round pick for either of them now based on their past performance?
I'm just being realistic. these 2 guys are far from lost causes but they're getting closer to lottery tickets than solid prospects.
You can have an opinion but it’s mostly based on stats. I have watched Ishakov play for the Russian world junior under 18 team. When we made the pick I was excited as I was very impressed what I saw from the kid. Like I said with Wally he’s been better in the Ahl then he was in college hockey considering the competition in the Ahl is much better. Yes more then half of the second round picks are busts. Still way to early to judge Ishakov though. I’m getting worried about Bellows though. I don’t watch Ahl but for a guy who is supposed to be a goal scorer his numbers scoring goals are very troublesome.
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I respect your opinion since you've seen Ishakov play but I'm still worried about him. The hit he took early in year 1 also makes me concerned on several levels.
Wally, Sorokin and Dobson have stud potential. Otto, Wilde and Skarek are also solid prospects. The rest look like B level guys at the current time.
More importantly, I can't believe I've got a team in any sport that's crushing it. It's been a long time between drinks of water.
Signed,
(Long suffering) Jets' fan
Most kids drafted from the 2nd round and on are long shots to be NHL players, but before we write off Ishkakov and Salo lets see what they can do in the AHL. I expect that both will sign after their respective seasons are over in 2020 and next season we will have a far better idea whether or not they can contribute in the NHL.
My sympathies for you being a Jets fan. Wally I think has top 6 potential not sure about stud potential. Dodson I love. Watched him some in junior in the memorial cup. Love the kids game. He’s top 2 tier defenseman potential in my opinion. Sorokin I have no idea about. Until I see him play I’m not going to judge.
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UConn/Providence played to a 3-3 tie last night.
Ben Mirageas had 5 shots, no points and was a -1 for the night.
Apparently, Ishakov did not play. There's a rematch tonight in Providence so we'll see if he dresses for that one.
For the prior UConn game on 11/16 he had 1 shot, 0 points and was 0 on the +/-.
Anyone know why Ishakov did not play last night?
Ben Mirageas had 5 shots, no points and was a -1 for the night.
Apparently, Ishakov did not play. There's a rematch tonight in Providence so we'll see if he dresses for that one.
For the prior UConn game on 11/16 he had 1 shot, 0 points and was 0 on the +/-.
Anyone know why Ishakov did not play last night?
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Ishakov has some time. No telling what might happen. UCONN is a team that is struggling as they jumped from Division 3 to 1 only 5-6 years ago and it is not necessarily a place where top talent goes in New England.
Lets see if Lou gives him a shot in the minor leagues when he is done at UCONN.
Lets see if Lou gives him a shot in the minor leagues when he is done at UCONN.
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If he stays 4 years at Uconn he could walk away from the Isles and sign anywhere he wants. I want lou to sign him.
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UConn/Providence rematch Saturday: Providence 5 UConn 2
Ben Mirageas 0 G, 0 A, 6 shots (team lead), -1 on the +/-
Ishakov DNP
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NHL - New York Islanders
| PLAYER | POS | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | +/- |
| Noah Dobson | D | 2018 round 1 #12 | 1 | 6 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
| Oliver Wahlstrom | RW/LW | 2018 round 1 #11 | 3 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | -2 |
| * Otto Koivula | C/LW/RW | 2016 round 4 #120 | 6 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
AHL - Bridgeport Sound Tigers
| PLAYER | POS | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | +/- |
| Kieffer Bellows | LW/C | 2016 round 1 #19 | 5 | 18 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 15 | -15 |
| Simon Holmstrom | RW | 2019 round 1 #23 | 8 | 20 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 2 | -10 |
| Otto Koivula | C/LW/RW | 2016 round 4 #120 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 4 | -8 |
| Bode Wilde | D | 2018 round 2 #41 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 |
| Parker Wotherspoon | D | 2015 round 4 #112 | HM | 21 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 15 | -8 |
| + Robert Carpenter | LW/C | UFA Signing | NR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Sebastian Aho | D | 2017 round 5 #139 | 7 | 21 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 4 | -13 |
| * Oliver Wahlstrom | RW/LW | 2018 round 1 #11 | 3 | 12 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 11 | -6 |
| Grant Hutton | D | UFA Signing | HM | 13 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 23 | -3 |
| Mason Jobst | LW/C | UFA Signing | NR | 15 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 15 | 0 |
| David Quenneville | D | 2016 rnd 7 #200 | NR | 8 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 4 | -5 |
| Arnaud Durandeau | LW/C | 2017 round 6 #165 | HM | 10 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 8 | -1 |
ECHL - Worcester Railers
| PLAYER | POS | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | +/- |
| * David Quenneville | D | 2016 rnd 7 #200 | NR | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | -3 |
CHL - Canadian Major Juniors
| PLAYER | POS | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | TEAM | GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | +/- |
| Samuel Bolduc | D | 2019 round 2 #57 | 10 | Blainville-Boisbriand | 24 | 6 | 8 | 12 | 12 | 5 |
| Blade Jenkins | LW/C | 2018 round 5 #134 | 14 | Saginaw Spirit | 23 | 6 | 12 | 18 | 6 | 1 |
| Cole Coskey | RW | 2019 round 7 #209 | NR | Saginaw Spirit | 23 | 12 | 17 | 29 | 8 | 1 |
| Felix Bibeau | C | 2019 round 6 #178 | NR | Quebec Remparts | 26 | 15 | 14 | 29 | 33 | -1 |
| Reece Newkirk | C | 2019 round 5 #147 | NR | Portland Winterhawks | 21 | 6 | 20 | 26 | 24 | 6 |
NCAA
| PLAYER | POS | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | TEAM | GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | +/- |
| Ruslan Iskhakov | C/RW | 2018 round 2 #43 | 9 | Univ. of Connecticut | 10 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 0 |
| Nick Pastujov | LW | 2016 round 7 #193 | NR | Univ. of Michigan | 14 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 0 |
| Collin Adams | LW | 2016 round 6 #170 | NR | Univ. of North Dakota | 13 | 5 | 6 | 11 | 4 | 13 |
| + Logan Cockerill | LW | 2017 round 7 #201 | NR | Boston Univ. | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Benjamin Mirageas | D | 2017 round 3 #77 | NR | Providence College | 14 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 8 | 6 |
| Christian Krygier | D | 2018 round 7 #196 | NR | Michigan State Univ. | 12 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 22 | 2 |
| Jacob Pivonka | C | 2018 round 4 #103 | NR | Univ. of Notre Dame | 12 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 8 | 7 |
Europe
| PLAYER | POS | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | TEAM | GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | +/- |
| Robin Salo | D | 2017 round 2 #46 | 20 | SaiPa (Liiga) | 24 | 3 | 10 | 13 | 10 | -4 |
Goalies
| PLAYER | ACQUIRED | HFB RANK | TEAM | GP | GAA | SV% | SO |
| Ilya Sorokin | 2014 round 3 #78 | 2 | CSKA Moskva (KHL) | 19 | 1.50 | .937 | 4 |
| Linus Söderström | 2014 round 4 #95 | 11 | * Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Worcester Railers (ECHL) | 4 | 4.49 | .870 | 0 | |||
| Jakub Skarek | 2018 round 3 #72 | 12 | * Worcester Railers (ECHL) | 5 | 3.06 | .900 | 1 |
| Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) | 4 | 3.06 | .900 | 0 |
How a guy with the production of Reece Newkirk not get mentioned here? Coskey and Bibeau you expected over a PPG because of their age.
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REALLY liked the Newkirk selection, may wind up to be a sneaky good pick. Very intense type of player. Maybe a Cizikas type.
Sick didn’t say with what. Ishakov has been playing first and second line wing for UConn
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As much as I don't know how much playing in juniors will benefit Dobson, he simply isn't getting in enough games right now. I wish they'd do more of a rotation with Mayfield, Dobson, Boychuk.
Lou already said playing in juniors won’t really help his development. Agreed he needs to play more as playing once every 2 weeks is hard for any player especially a rookie.
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He’s played so much hockey the last few years and is too good for junior hockey. He’s practicing and learning from Trotz everyday. As far as I’m concerned we’re ahead of schedule for this 19 year old. He’s learning the pro lifestyle and game. Lou and Trotz aren’t Garth Snow. They know how valuable Dobson is to the islanders future and wouldn’t do anything they thought would hurt or jeopardize his future.
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