Player Discussion Isac Lundestrom

[Quackenator]

You mean off the Gulls website? I don't think he was ever re-added, Comtois isn't on there either, yet Eaves still is.

trying to find where i saw it but it was a posted roster for tonight and lundy was still missing. of course i cant find where i saw it but i'll keep looking

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

trying to find where i saw it but it was a posted roster for tonight and lundy was still missing. of course i cant find where i saw it but i'll keep looking

Oh, yeah that's entirely believable if he's hurt. I thought you meant the full roster and not the game day one, that would've been odd lol.

 

[Jagge11]

Swedish northern news site has an article behind a paywall
https://www.nsd.se/nm5110084
I can see that is says "Isac Lundeström has been out of the AHL team San Diego Gulls team the last two games. Now the players agent tells that it's because..."

Dammit, cliffhanger...

Now Lundestrom's agent tells us that it was because of an injury.
- He has a little strain only, right now he's doing some rehab. Hopefully he is back for the weekend so it's nothing serious, says agent Martin Nilsson.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

He's often injured it seems.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Is a +2 in 3 games but has yet to pick up a point. How has he looked to you?

 

[duxfan1101]

He's one of the smoothest skaters we have, but he doesn't seem to know what to do once he skates into the offensive zone.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Is a +2 in 3 games but has yet to pick up a point. How has he looked to you?

Smart with the puck, very good defensively, but seems timid once he gets into the offensive zone.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

1 thing I really like about him is positionally in neutral zone and defense end he always seems to be in the right areas.... his offensive game obviously needs work and prob the main reason hell spend a lot of time in san diego… but everything else about him is pretty much NHL level quality.

Oddly enough last year when I saw him, he had a lot more offensive skill than he was given credit for.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I'll be very happy if Lundestrom turns into Sami Pahlsson which seems more likely than him turning into a 2C or 1C or high end 3C.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I think he's going to be a very good number 3 center, which would be great if Zegras and Steel can solidify themselves as top 2 guys

I worry that we're rushing him though, the only way he's going to cultivate whatever offensive talent he has is in lower leagues...should be playing 20 minutes a game in SD

 

[Goose of Reason]

I'll be very happy if Lundestrom turns into Sami Pahlsson which seems more likely than him turning into a 2C or 1C or high end 3C.

In what world was Sami Pahlsson not a high end 3C. He was a legitimate contender for the Smythe in 07.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

In what world was Sami Pahlsson not a high end 3C. He was a legitimate contender for the Smythe in 07.

He never reached even 30 points in the NHL. A high end 3C reaches 40 to 50 points with great 2 way defense.

 

[Goose of Reason]

He never reached even 30 points in the NHL. A high end 3C reaches 40 to 50 points with great 2 way defense.

I would argue that is a good second line center more than a high end 3C

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think he's going to be a very good number 3 center, which would be great if Zegras and Steel can solidify themselves as top 2 guys

I worry that we're rushing him though, the only way he's going to cultivate whatever offensive talent he has is in lower leagues...should be playing 20 minutes a game in SD

Lundy proved he was an offensive machine once he was returned to SHL team. He went back to a system he's been in a couple of years and simply excel. The North American ice is new to him as well as being moved around between NHL and AHL systems. Lundy isn't being rushed to be rushed, he's being rushed only due to injuries. That's what happened last year. That's what is happening this season so far. If Steel was healthy, then Lundy is in the AHL. In fact, that's where Lundy was to begin the season. The org did see something odd recently, which was why Shore started at center over Lundy in the last game.

IMO, Lundy lacks confidence on NA ice. At only 19 years old, he's got time to become re-adjusted and hopefully taps back into that offensive scoring like he did last year when he was returned to his SHL team.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I would argue that is a good second line center more than a high end 3C

Adam Henrique is a 40-50 point center & many say he is more of a 3C on a good team.

 

[DavidBL]

Adam Henrique is a 40-50 point center & many say he is more of a 3C on a good team.

I'd say you eant 30-40 pts from a 3c 40-60 for a 2c and 70+ fron a 1c. The better defenaively you are the less pts you need to ve effective foe the team.

 

[Paul4587]

He never reached even 30 points in the NHL. A high end 3C reaches 40 to 50 points with great 2 way defense.

He didn’t need to, he was that good defensively.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Sami famously centered the line where you could take 45 seconds and check other games, take a quick bathroom break, go grab a beer, etc. because you knew nothing was going to happen for either team. That line was also elite at starting and ending periods to prevent significant swings in momentum.

 

[Elvs]

He never reached even 30 points in the NHL. A high end 3C reaches 40 to 50 points with great 2 way defense.

Pahlsson's highest scoring season was 26 points in 06/07. In that season, 141 forwards scored 40+ points. There were 180 top six forwards in the NHL. Thus, 40-50 points wasn't something you'd expect from a third line player. Not then and not now.

He was a selke finalist and a lock for the Swedish Olympic team twice. As a pending UFA, he fetched a return of James Wisniewski and a B level prospect (Petri Kontiola). And later he signed three year contract worth nearly $8 mil with Columbus when the salary cap was $53 mil. That's the equivalent of being payed $4.1 mil PER YEAR in todays market.

In other words, Pahlsson in his prime was pretty clearly regarded as a high end third line center.

 

[duckpuck]

Pahlsson's highest scoring season was 26 points in 06/07. In that season, 141 forwards scored 40+ points. There were 180 top six forwards in the NHL. Thus, 40-50 points wasn't something you'd expect from a third line player. Not then and not now.

He was a selke finalist and a lock for the Swedish Olympic team twice. As a pending UFA, he fetched a return of James Wisniewski and a B level prospect (Petri Kontiola). And later he signed three year contract worth nearly $8 mil with Columbus when the salary cap was $53 mil. That's the equivalent of being payed $4.1 mil PER YEAR in todays market.

In other words, Pahlsson in his prime was pretty clearly regarded as a high end third line center.

Unless your "second line" is your shutdown line (Cogs-Kesler-Silf) in which case Kesler (or Pahlsson) was a second line center. The 2 vs. 3 argument is silly as is evaluating a shutdown forward based on the number of points he scored. This year, the ducks Grantzlaf line is playing a shut down roll and is getting more ice time than the other lines. Is that a first line or fourth? Again, the rankings are silly.

If Lundestrom becomes as useful a player as Phalsson was, then he will be very valuable regardless of what line he's on.

 

[MMC]

 

[JabbaJabba]

Injured or?

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Injured or?

Probably just coming for training camp.

 

[pbgoalie]

If Lundestrom
Became a Pahlsson

I’d be thrilled
Sami’s value was incredibly high, especially in the playoffs

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Whoa. If Lundestrom is returning to Anaheim for training camp, then other Ducks across should be making their way too, right? That would be Larsson and Andersson from the same league as Isac as well as Hunter Drew in Slovakia.