So all and all there's 14 better D's out there IMO and 1 draw. Still we have better D-core atm than 15 teams imo.
We want to win the Cup, not be a middle of the pack team. Can't compare ourselves to crappy teams and pat ourselves on the back, gotta be able to beat the BEST out there.
Also, I didn't go through all your comparisons, but Washington for example has a solidly better blueline than us. Niskanen is a stud defensively, better than anything we have, and Carlson is a stud offensively, better than anything we have in that respect. Orlov, Orpik, etc round them out too. So we might be ranked more in the ~15-20 range, strictly looking at bluelines.
Advanced stats don't prove whether someone is a good defender or not, so it's not false that he's a terrible defender. People don't go over-the-top in knocking leafs D at all. What people say are true. It's a horrendous defense core that needs to be significantly re worked if the team wants to have a defense that doesn't suck.This isn't true. He's always had very good defensive advanced stats. He'll be a top 4 D no matter where he goes next. He's also getting a big raise. People go over-the-top in knocking Leafs D.
That post does not describe my post perfectly at all. It's easily the truth and it's ridiculous to argue against it.I suspected the point might sail over your head. Good on you for trying at least though.
When your goalie bails you out 24/7 and your offence scores quite a bit of goals, then yes you do 'finish with as good a record as we did with a "bad" defense corps'.You don't finish with as good a record as we did with a "bad" defense corps.
That post does not describe my post perfectly at all. It's easily the truth and it's ridiculous to argue against it.
Advanced stats don't prove whether someone is a good defender or not, so it's not false that he's a terrible defender. People don't go over-the-top in knocking leafs D at all. What people say are true. It's a horrendous defense core that needs to be significantly re worked if the team wants to have a defense that doesn't suck.
The truth is I am correct and you are delusional.Over you head once again. The truth is out there, keep looking I guess.
Ridiculous to argue against it? Jeez you're not some hockey messiah, stop acting all high and mighty thinking you're better than everyone else.That post does not describe my post perfectly at all. It's easily the truth and it's ridiculous to argue against it.
The truth is I am correct and you are delusional.
unsurprisingly, you are incorrect. people will still say the leafs defense sucks because its true and there are many proposals made with the objective of the leafs acquiring a dman because they need a dmanIf we were to ignore your posts, that might be true.
Ridiculous to argue against it? Jeez you're not some hockey messiah, stop acting all high and mighty thinking you're better than everyone else.
Your opinion is worse than the average Leaf fan these days.
i have found the truth. i already told you that and you are being, unsurprisingly, delusional yet again. if you can't handle being incorrect, don't be rude to others because they areLike I said, the truth is out there. But then again, so are you. Hmm ...
my opinion is not worse than the 'average leaf fan'. it is much better than the 'average leaf fan' because the 'average leaf fan' overrates everything about the leafs, including their defense, which is just preposterousRidiculous to argue against it? Jeez you're not some hockey messiah, stop acting all high and mighty thinking you're better than everyone else.
Your opinion is worse than the average Leaf fan these days.
my opinion is not worse than the 'average leaf fan'. it is much better than the 'average leaf fan' because the 'average leaf fan' overrates everything about the leafs, including their defense, which is just preposterous
i have found the truth. i already told you that and you are being, unsurprisingly, delusional yet again. if you can't handle being incorrect, don't be rude to others because they are
You're doing the same horrible stuff you think the "average leaf fan" is doing but in the opposite direction. You can't be this far gone to not see this right? You're acting exactly like any other casual fan.
Spewing hot take opinions and acting like it's gospel as soon as you type it down. You don't know how to explain your view points. You just say things and if people think differently, they're dumb.
Again, you're not some hockey messiah. You're an "average fan".
what i'm say are not hot takes whatsoever. hot takes are saying jake gardiner is a poor defender because of game 7. i am not saying that. i say jake gardiner is a bad defender because he's been a bad defender for his entire career. another hot take is 'the leafs defense is terrible' because of game 7. i never said that. i always say the leafs defense is crap because of how they play in their own zone.You're doing the same horrible stuff you think the "average leaf fan" is doing but in the opposite direction. You can't be this far gone to not see this right? You're acting exactly like any other casual fan.
Spewing hot take opinions and acting like it's gospel as soon as you type it down. You don't know how to explain your view points. You just say things and if people think differently, they're dumb.
Again, you're not some hockey messiah. You're an "average fan".
what i'm say are not hot takes whatsoever. hot takes are saying jake gardiner is a poor defender because of game 7. i am not saying that. i say jake gardiner is a bad defender because he's been a bad defender for his entire career. another hot take is 'the leafs defense is terrible' because of game 7. i never said that. i always say the leafs defense is crap because of how they play in their own zone.
another thing. whatever you claim i think i am or whatever i think of others is false. i don't think they're dumb and i don't think i'm a hockey messiah. they're opinions are incorrect, thats all.
my opinions are correct and once again, you are incorrect. its quite insane you actually believe a soft, turnover machine who benefits from playing on one of the top offensive cores in the league is actually a good dman. its more insane that you don't think the leafs defense is crap. theres more to evaluating a defense core than just looking at the stat sheet.Jake Gardiner is actually a good Dman and the Leafs defence is not crap.
Your opinions are incorrect, that's all.
When your goalie bails you out 24/7 and your offence scores quite a bit of goals, then yes you do 'finish with as good a record as we did with a "bad" defense corps'.
no it wasn't. it was fairly good. mcelhinney was spectacular and andersen was goodOur goaltending was very mediocre this year.
The fact McElhinney "played well" makes me think the team D is underrated.no it wasn't. it was fairly good. mcelhinney was spectacular and andersen was good
my opinions are correct and once again, you are incorrect. its quite insane you actually believe a soft, turnover machine who benefits from playing on one of the top offensive cores in the league is actually a good dman. its more insane that you don't think the leafs defense is crap. theres more to evaluating a defense core than just looking at the stat sheet.
he had a great save percentage and he faced a lot of shots when he was in net.The fact McElhinney "played well" makes me think the team D is underrated.